How Do Charges on Beads Affect Spring Stretching?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the use of a lightweight spring to measure charge. The spring is stretched to different lengths when attached to different objects and given different charges. The question arises about the relationship between the restoring force of the spring and the electric force exerted by the beads. It is determined that the restoring force should be equal to the electric force and not double it, as there are only two forces acting on the bead according to Newton's second law.
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The question states:

"You have a lightweight spring whose unstretched length is 3.28 cm.
You're curious to see if you can use this spring to measure charge.
First, you attach one end of the spring to the ceiling and hang a 2.57 g
mass from it. This stretches the spring to a length of 4.37 cm. You then
attach two small plastic beads to the opposite ends of the spring, lay
the spring on a frictionless table, and give each plastic bead the same
charge. This stretches the spring to a length of 3.78 cm. What is the
magnitude of the charge on each bead?"

So, after finding the spring constant using the mass hung from the
ceiling, we can calculate the restoring force of the spring in the
spring-2bead system. This restoring force must be equal to the electric
force exerted by the beads since the spring is at equilibrium. This is
the part that I'm having trouble with. Shouldn't the restoring force be
equal to 2x the electric force? Each bead will exert a force on the
other and cause each to stretch the spring in opposite directions. In other words, the electric force of each bead on the other (so there are two forces) is what actually causes the spring to stretch to its equilibrium length. If we calculate using only one electric force, aren't we making the assumption that one bead is held still in position?

The answer as it stands is found by equating the restoring force to only one electric force so where have I gone wrong?

Thanks.
 
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… springy thingy …

nothing123 said:
If we calculate using only one electric force, aren't we making the assumption that one bead is held still in position

Hi nothing123! :smile:

But if one bead was held still in position, wouldn't the length of the spring be the same? :smile:
 
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Yes, you're right and I have reasoned it this way. Nevertheless, if one wasn't held in place, why would the result be the same?
 
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Why shouldn't it be? :confused:

How could any other part of the spring "know" what was happening at one end? :smile:
 
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This is
the part that I'm having trouble with. Shouldn't the restoring force be
equal to 2x the electric force?

We are applying Newton's second law on the Bead. There are only two forces working on it-electrostatic and spring force. So [tex]F_s=F_q[/tex] not [tex] F_s=2F_q[/tex]
 

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What is the concept of charged beads on a spring?

The concept of charged beads on a spring involves the study of the behavior and interactions of charged objects, such as beads, on a spring under the influence of an electric field.

How does the electric field affect the motion of the charged beads on a spring?

The electric field exerts a force on the charged beads, causing them to experience a net force and move in a certain direction. This can change the length and shape of the spring, as well as the velocity and acceleration of the beads.

What factors influence the behavior of charged beads on a spring?

The behavior of charged beads on a spring is influenced by several factors, including the strength and direction of the electric field, the charge and mass of the beads, and the properties of the spring, such as its length and stiffness.

What is the relationship between the charge of the beads and the electric field?

The charge of the beads determines the strength of the electric field that they experience. The greater the charge, the stronger the electric field, and the more force the beads will experience.

What applications does the study of charged beads on a spring have?

The study of charged beads on a spring has various applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and material science. It can provide insight into the behavior of charged particles in different environments and help in the design of devices such as sensors and accelerometers.

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