Mechanics - Curvilinear Motion x/y coordinates

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving the quality assurance procedure for ball bearings. The question asks for the speed of the ball after passing through a hole and the equation for its parabolic trajectory. The conversation also discusses finding the equation for a straight line at a 48 degree angle and the point of intersection between the parabola and the line. The conversation includes hints and suggestions for solving the problem using kinematic equations and basic trigonometry.
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Homework Statement


The quality assurance procedure for ball bearings has them coming down a shute and bouncing through a hole in a plate as shown. Acceptable balls pass through the hole and impact the inclined slope at Q. Find HW

http://hdimage.org/images/5plyw1jdci01pyz641pb.jpg

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The Attempt at a Solution


I have been staring at this question for the past day, trying to think of how to approach it. However it has been to no avail. I am stumped, and I would really appreciate some help to steer me in the right direction. Cheers.
 
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Note that there is no vertical component of the velocity when the ball goes through the hole. What is its speed then? Find an expression (y = f(x)) for the parabolic trajectory after the ball passes through the hole. Find an equation for the straight line at 48.0o. Find the point of intersection of the parabola and the straight line.
 
  • #3
Yeah, so it will have a velocity of 0ms-1 at the vertex. I am having trouble finding the expression for the parabolic trajectory. Do I let P be the origin and define the equation of the parabola and straight line using the coordinates given? Also how do you define the a, b and c values in the general form of a parabola, y = ax2 + bx + c?
 
  • #4
Use Newtons basic equations of motion. When you derive the equation for parabolic motion neglect all external forces other than gravity.

Hint start with a=dv/dt and v=dx/dt.

Acceleration vector looks like <0,-g> (Using Up as positive y of course)
 
  • #5
Yes, use P as the origin. To get the parabola, write the two kinematic equations for projectile motion giving x(t) and y(t). Solve the first equation for t and substitute in the second. This eliminates t and gives you an equation for y in terms of x. Once you have that, you can easily identify a, b, and c.
 
  • #6
Please disregard post #5.
It was written in haste as I initially thought that the acceleration of gravity must be part of all this. It does not.

The origin should be directly underneath the hole where the inclined plane starts. This makes writing the equation for the straight line trivial. For the parabola, note that, if the incline were not there, y is zero at two points, x = -L and x = +L (L = 121 mm). These are the roots of a quadratic. So the parabola can be written as

y(x) = C (x - L)(x + L)

All you need to do is find C such that y(0) = 143 mm
:wink:
 
  • #7
Ok I did some pen and paper calculations.

Finding the equation of the parabola is actually quite simple. Place the origin at P as kuruman suggested.

Then you take the general equation of a parabola [tex] y=ax^2 + bx + c [/tex]

Since we're at the origin c = 0 right away.

Then we take the derivative y' [tex]y' = 2ax +b [/tex]

We have 1 crucial piece of information. y(121) = 143 i.e.

[tex] 143=a121^2 + b121 [/tex] and since this is the location of the max from pre calc we know

y' = 0
[tex]0 = (2)(121)a +b [/tex]

we now have 2 equations and 2 unknowns.

to find [tex]h_w[/tex], we now need to find an equation for that line.

I would suggest start by placing a new origin at x=121mm and use some geometry to find the line at 48 degrees that intersects the parabola. With the new origin there do not forget to make c=143
 
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to find the slope of the line here is a hint:

The slope is related to basic trigonometry.
 
  • #9
From P to hole:
t = (2*0.143/9.81)^0.5
vx = 0.121 / t
vx is a constant if air resistance does not present.

From hole to Q:
Hw = 0.143 - 0.5*9.81k -------------- (1)
Qx = vx*k --------------------------- (2)
Hw = Qx*tan(48) ----------------------(3)
(k is elapsed time from hole to Q)

three equations, three unknown.
you can make one equation for (1), (2) and (3) if you want.
 

1. What is curvilinear motion?

Curvilinear motion is a type of motion in which an object moves along a curved path, rather than a straight line.

2. What are x/y coordinates in mechanics?

X/y coordinates in mechanics refer to the Cartesian coordinate system, which is used to describe the position of an object in space. The x-coordinate represents the horizontal position, while the y-coordinate represents the vertical position.

3. How is curvilinear motion represented in x/y coordinates?

In x/y coordinates, curvilinear motion is represented by a curved line on a graph. The x-coordinate will change as the object moves horizontally, while the y-coordinate will change as the object moves vertically.

4. Can curvilinear motion be described using equations?

Yes, curvilinear motion can be described using mathematical equations. The equations used will depend on the specific type of curvilinear motion, such as circular or parabolic motion.

5. What is the difference between curvilinear motion and rectilinear motion?

The main difference between curvilinear motion and rectilinear motion is that curvilinear motion involves movement along a curved path, while rectilinear motion involves movement along a straight line. Additionally, the equations used to describe these types of motion are different.

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