Do I need a shunt resistor?

In summary, the speaker has a 12vdc, 5Amp power supply and needs to connect it to a 12vdc, 40 watt electromagnet. They have added a SPDT relay switch between the power supply and the electromagnet to control it, but are concerned about the potential for arcing and damage to the power supply. They are considering using a shunt resistor or a diode to protect against this. The expert suggests using a diode across the coil in the opposite direction of the normal magnetizing current to prevent arcing. They recommend picking a diode that can support the full coil current and connecting it in reverse bias. They also clarify that the power supply's ability to deliver 5 amps is
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I have a 12vdc, 5Amp power supply and need to connect to a 12vdc, 40 watt electromagnet. I put a SPDT relay switch between the power supply and the electromagnet to turn it on and off. Do I need to put in a shunt resistor or something else to protect the magnet and the power supply? How do I figure out what value my resistor should be and where do I put it? Should I put it across the electromagnet or across the output of the power supply before the relay switch? Thanks
 
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kfpanda said:
I have a 12vdc, 5Amp power supply and need to connect to a 12vdc, 40 watt electromagnet. I put a SPDT relay switch between the power supply and the electromagnet to turn it on and off. Do I need to put in a shunt resistor or something else to protect the magnet and the power supply? How do I figure out what value my resistor should be and where do I put it? Should I put it across the electromagnet or across the output of the power supply before the relay switch? Thanks

Why are you thinking that you need a shunt resistor?

And maybe instead of the resistor, you should put a big catch diode across the electromagnet coil? If you don't, when you open the relay, you could get some arcing across the relay, and possibly hurt your power supply...
 
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So, a diode is better to protect arcing? what value do I need? I am a beginner and trying to learn to do this right. Thanks.
 
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kfpanda said:
So, a diode is better to protect arcing? what value do I need? I am a beginner and trying to learn to do this right. Thanks.

The diode will go across the coil in the opposite direction of the normal magnetizing current (point the cathode toward the +12V side). The diode will need to be able to support the full coil current briefly as the relay is opened. When the relay opens, the coil voltage will "fly back" in the reverse direction, and the diode will catch it at about -0.7V, keeping it from flying back to a high enough voltage to cause an arc. The coil current will be supported by the diode as it decays to zero. The time it takes to decay is approximately L/R, where R is the resistance of the coil.

So given the 40W power and 12V input voltage, what is the current of your coil when it is on? Pick a diode that can support that current as a peak current, and you should be okay. You can use the Digikey website, for example, to help you find candidate power diodes.
 
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The spec of the electromagnet is 12v, 40watt. I am assuming 3.3 amp. it will use. Will I need a zener diode? Thanks.
 
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kfpanda said:
The spec of the electromagnet is 12v, 40watt. I am assuming 3.3 amp. it will use. Will I need a zener diode? Thanks.

No, not a Zener diode, just a vanilla diode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_diode

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Did you pick up on the fact that you need to connect the diode so that it is reverse biased (i.e.'backwards') so it doesn't conduct when operating normally? It will, however, conduct when the relay breaks the circuit and a back emf is generated by the falling current in the coil. Any 'rectifier' / power diode will do (as opposed to a small signal 'detector' diode).
 
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I think you might be worried that the power supply can deliver 5 amps but the relay only uses 3.3 amps.

This is not a problem, as the relay will only take what it needs from the power supply and the extra current doesn't have to go anywhere else.
 

1. Do I need a shunt resistor for my circuit?

The need for a shunt resistor depends on the specific requirements and design of your circuit. Shunt resistors are commonly used for current sensing and measuring applications, but may not be necessary for all circuits.

2. How do I choose the right shunt resistor?

The selection of a shunt resistor involves considering factors such as the desired resistance value, power rating, temperature coefficient, and tolerance. It is important to choose a shunt resistor that can handle the expected current and provide accurate measurements.

3. Can I use any resistor as a shunt resistor?

Technically, any resistor can be used as a shunt resistor. However, for accurate current sensing and measurement, it is recommended to use a dedicated shunt resistor designed for this purpose. These resistors have low inductance and high power handling capabilities.

4. When should I use a shunt resistor in my circuit?

A shunt resistor is typically used when there is a need to measure or sense the current flowing through a circuit. This can be for various applications, such as overcurrent protection, battery charging, motor control, or power monitoring.

5. What are the advantages and disadvantages of using a shunt resistor?

The main advantage of using a shunt resistor is its ability to accurately measure current without significantly affecting the circuit's performance. However, shunt resistors can also introduce errors due to their small resistance values and may generate heat, requiring proper heat dissipation. Additionally, using a shunt resistor may increase the complexity and cost of the circuit design.

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