Relation between charge and voltage in spherical capacitorsby abdo799 Tags: capacitor, capacitors, charge, electrostactics, relation, spherical, voltage 

#1
Feb1314, 05:44 PM

P: 90

1If we had a spherical capacitor and the voltage across it is 1000 V, I need to know the charge on every plate, I know 2 ways to solve this either using C=Q/V or V=Q/r * 1/4ε0∏. So, which one should I use, and why?
2Another thing, according to hyperphysics the formula for the capacitance of the spherical capacitor = 4∏ε0/ (1/a  1/b). Does that mean that the dielectric constant of the dielectric has no effect like parallel plates? 



#2
Feb1414, 06:15 AM

Thanks
P: 1,019

2. Usually we look at spheres with nothing in between, hence the ##\epsilon_0##. With a dielectric you would have to use ##\epsilon##.
1. With plate you mean spherical surface ? In your case I would use the first eqn. Since you already found the hyperphysics expression for C: just above there is V in terms of Q, though. A bit more straightforward. All this assuming you are comfortable with Gauss' law. 



#3
Feb1414, 01:03 PM

P: 90

if you considered a van de graaff generator , where the sphere was one plate and then it was covered with dielectric then we put another metal sphere on it as the other plate ( we ground this plate).(forming a spherical capacitor) If the van de graaff generator had a radius of 1 m and put a charge on the sphere of 0.001 coulomb using the second equation the voltage on the sphere will be about 9 MV. will the other plate gain the same voltage or the same charge ? In my first case i was almost sure that we have to use C=Q/V because the setup was a capacitor and a battery, a classical circuit. In the case i just wrote , something is different, we charge only one plate with positive charge ( the vande graaff generator) and the other plate will gain the extra negative charge from the ground. 



#4
Feb1414, 01:57 PM

Sci Advisor
HW Helper
Thanks
P: 26,167

Relation between charge and voltage in spherical capacitors
hi abdo799!
D = Q/4πr^{2} 



#5
Feb1514, 12:03 AM

P: 90





#6
Feb1514, 04:43 AM

Sci Advisor
HW Helper
Thanks
P: 26,167

hi abdo799!
when you change the voltage across any capacitor in a circuit, the total charge on the two plates will be the same as beforeif the capacitor is not part of a circuit (ie it's not really acting as a capacitor), eg if you charge one sphere and bring it near an uncharged sphere (unconnected to it), then the positive and negative charges on the uncharged sphere will redistribute so that the opposite charge faces the first sphere, and the "same" charge retreats to the other side of course, if the first plate surrounds the second so that the distance between them is constant, then there's no "nearer" and "further", and the charge in the second plate will have no reason to redistribute itself (it can't retreat to the inside surface of the second plate because the charge there must be zero from gauss's law since there's no charge inside it) if the second plate surrounds the first, a gaussian surface in the middle of the second plate shows that the opposite charge on the inside surface must be equal to that of the inner plate: the "same" charge will retreat to the outside surface of the second plate if not grounded, and to the ground if grounded (i think that's what you're asking about?) 



#7
Feb1514, 05:26 AM

P: 90

After we charge the whole thing , and the external sphere gained the extra charge , then we connect both sphere with a wire ( kinda like a capacitor discharge) the electrons will flow from the negative sphere to the positive one ,can i consider it now a capacitor ? can i use (1/2 c V^2) to calculate energy ? 



#8
Feb1614, 04:51 PM

Sci Advisor
PF Gold
P: 11,379





#9
Feb1714, 12:53 AM

P: 90




Register to reply 
Related Discussions  
Currentvoltage relation for series association of variable capacitors  Classical Physics  2  
Finding voltage due to spherical charge  Advanced Physics Homework  23  
capacitors charge and voltage relationship  Introductory Physics Homework  10  
Charge and voltage of capacitors?  Introductory Physics Homework  3  
Circuits capacitors, voltage and charge problem.  Introductory Physics Homework  1 