Conversion to closed-form expression with DE's

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In summary, the conversation revolves around the possibility of obtaining a closed-form solution for an implicit function F(x,y)=0, which cannot be explicitly solved for y. The implicit function theorem states that a function y(x) exists in the neighborhood of (0,0), and the differential equation dy/dx=g(x,y) can potentially have a closed-form solution for y. However, this method may not always yield results and the use of Galois theory or theory of functions may be necessary to prove the impossibility of a closed-form solution. The concept of "closed form" depends on context, and while integrals and series may sometimes be considered closed forms, they may not always be seen as an improvement. Ultimately, Galois theory allows one
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I was wondering, if it is possible to obtain somehow a solution expressed with elementary functions from an equation, which is in non closed-form at first sight.

For istance let us consider an implicit function F(x,y)=0 with Fx(0,0)≠0, which can't be explicitly solved for y. Nevertheless, according to the implicit function theorem, a function y(x) exists in the neighbourhood of (0,0). We also know from the same theorem that yx(x)=-Fx(x,y)/Fy(x,y).
One could now claim that the differential equation dy/dx=g(x,y) (whereby g(x,y)=-Fx(x,y)/Fy(x,y)) could have a closed-form solution for y!

The odds are that this method would never yield any result. If that is the case, can sb, more familiar with the Galois theory or the theory of functions, provide us with a justification/proof?
 
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It depends what is meant by closed form and at first sight.
For some purposes an integral, infinite series, or differential equations is a useful answer to a question and can be considered a closed form. Many textbook problems are silly when seen this way. One might be asked to write an integral as an infinite series, but it is not clear that it is an improvement. Often some clever use of an identity can allow a closed form that is not obvious at first. You are right Galois theory allows one to prove that a closed form does not exist. This holds only for that particular closed form, add some more functions and everything changes.

see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_Galois_theory
http://www.math.huji.ac.il/~kamensky/lectures/diffgalois.pdf
http://www-math.upb.de/~acrowley/Studium/img/DiffGal.pdf
 
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For instance the equation F(x,y)=lny+y-x is solvable for y near (1,1) but this solution, the so-called the Lambert function, cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions.
According to the method I described, the respective DE we get is: (y+1)y'=-y which has exactly the same solution. So there is nothing gained of course from this attempt.

Generally, integrals and series are not considered closed forms.

I guess "at first sight" would mean that our F is not explicitely solvable for a variable, but after some kind of transformation, we could "unravel" an elementary solution. I'm pretty much a beginner with the algebraic Galois theory let alone the differential extension, but the more I read the more obvious it becomes that sth like that is impossible.
 
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Galois theory just allows one to be sure something is impossible. There is nothing special about elementary functions. If you need to solve log y+y-x=0, you need the Lambert function (or similar). Later, maybe you need to solve log y+sin y-x=0 and the Lambert function is not enough. There is no way to get around these things.
 

1. What is a closed-form expression?

A closed-form expression is a mathematical expression that can be written using a finite number of standard mathematical operations, such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and exponentiation. It does not involve any infinite processes, such as infinite sums or integrals.

2. Why do we convert differential equations to closed-form expressions?

Converting differential equations to closed-form expressions allows us to solve them analytically, meaning we can find an exact solution rather than an approximate one. This can be useful in understanding the behavior of a system or predicting future outcomes.

3. How do we convert differential equations to closed-form expressions?

To convert a differential equation to a closed-form expression, we use various techniques such as separation of variables, substitution, and integration. These techniques allow us to manipulate the equation to isolate the dependent variable and express it in terms of the independent variable.

4. What are the benefits of using closed-form expressions in science?

Closed-form expressions can provide a deeper understanding of the underlying mathematics and relationships in a system. They also allow for precise calculations and can be used to make predictions about the behavior of a system under different conditions.

5. Can all differential equations be converted to closed-form expressions?

No, not all differential equations can be solved analytically. Some equations are too complex or do not have a closed-form solution. In these cases, numerical methods can be used to approximate a solution.

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