Ground level energies (Particle in a box vs Harmonic Osc.)

In summary, the choice of quantum numbers for the particle in a box and harmonic oscillator solutions is based on the physics of the problem and the convenience of certain mathematical formalisms. In the case of the particle in a box, n=0 is discarded because it represents an unphysical solution. In the case of the harmonic oscillator, n=0 is included as it leads to a non-trivial solution.
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Denver Dang
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Hello.

I have a tiny question that has confused me.

Currently I'm reading about potential wells, harmonic oscillators, the free particle in quantum physics.
If I just take the particle in a box as an example you have a region where the potential is zero, and you have some walls/boundaries where the potential is infinite, so the particle cannot escape.
The energy levels of the particle in a box is given by:

En = pn2 / 2m,
for n = 1, 2, 3...

So far so good.

But when I get to the harmonic oscillator, the energy levels is given by:
En = (n + ½)h-bar*ω,
for n = 0, 1, 2...

And then my book just writes: "Note that the ground level of energy in the harmonic oscillator is n = 0, not n = 1..."

So my question is, why is that ? Any particular reason, or just something I have to accept ? :)


Thanks in advance.


Regards
 
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The quantum number is a parameter that has to be viewed in light of the way that the wavefunctions have been written down, as well as the physics of the problem. For the particle in a box, we typically take

[tex]\psi_n(x) = A \sin (n \pi x/L).[/tex]

With this choice, [itex]n=0[/itex] corresponds to [itex]\psi_0=0[/itex]. The corresponding probability density also vanishes, so this physically corresponds to having no particle at all in the box. So we discard it on physical grounds and take [itex]n=1,\ldots[/itex].

However, it would not be wrong to take

[tex]\psi'_n(x) = A \sin ((n-12) \pi x/L)[/tex]

as our solutions. Then we would determine that [itex]n=12[/itex] is an unphysical solution, while [itex]n=11[/itex] is equivalent to [itex]n=13[/itex], etc., so we should take [itex]n=13,\ldots[/itex] to have a complete set of solutions. This choice is more cumbersome and confusing compared to the textbook one, so it's not used in practice.

Similarly, for the harmonic oscillator, using the index set [itex]n=0,\ldots[/itex] is the most convenient choice when you actually write down expressions for the wavefunctions. In particular, if you study the formalism of raising and lowering operators ([itex]a^\dagger,a[/itex]), it is a very physically natural one to use, since [itex]n[/itex] then counts the number of raising operators that are acting on the ground state.

In other cases, the choice of parameter is even more concretely suggested by the physics of the problem. For example, angular momentum states are chosen so that the quantum number [itex]l=0[/itex] for the state with zero angular momentum. As in the particle in a box case, we could choose a different parametrization, but the physical interpretation would be more confusing.
 
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In case of harmonic oscillators,it is convenient to use creation and annihilation operator(you can see it elsewhere )
defining |p>=a|H'>(a is annihilation operator and |H'> is an eigenket)
<p|p>=<H'|a*a|H'>,now a*a (a* is creation operator) can be written as H'-(1/2)h-ω
since<p|p> and<H'|H'> is positive,so it implies
E≥ (1/2)h-ω
 
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So my question is, why is that ? Any particular reason, or just something I have to accept ?

I could be wrong, but I assume that if you are asking the question you are asking, you are not skilled in Dirac notation and Hermetian conjugates yet, so the previous explanations may not sing so loud. So I will give you my equally freshman understanding of the situation, which is that the n for the particle in the box solution COULD be zero, but that would lead to a trivial solution where nothing would happen, so we leave that option out. We do not have that same problem with the harmonic oscillator because the added 1/2 in the term gives a non-trivial solution even when n=0.
 

1. What is the difference between a particle in a box and a harmonic oscillator?

A particle in a box is a quantum mechanical model used to describe the energy levels of a particle confined to a finite space, while a harmonic oscillator is a classical model used to describe the motion of a particle under the influence of a restoring force that is proportional to its displacement.

2. How do the energy levels in a particle in a box compare to those of a harmonic oscillator?

The energy levels in a particle in a box are discrete and evenly spaced, while the energy levels in a harmonic oscillator are continuous and form a ladder-like pattern.

3. What is the significance of the ground state in both systems?

The ground state is the lowest energy state in both systems. In a particle in a box, the ground state has zero energy and is the only state that a particle can occupy at absolute zero temperature. In a harmonic oscillator, the ground state is the state with the lowest possible energy and is often used as a reference point for measuring the energy of other states.

4. How does the size of the box or the strength of the restoring force affect the energy levels?

The energy levels in a particle in a box are inversely proportional to the size of the box, meaning that smaller boxes will have higher energy levels. In a harmonic oscillator, the energy levels are directly proportional to the strength of the restoring force, meaning that stronger forces will result in higher energy levels.

5. Can the energy levels in these systems be measured experimentally?

Yes, the energy levels in both systems can be measured using various experimental techniques, such as spectroscopy. These measurements can provide valuable information about the properties of the system and can be compared to theoretical predictions to test the accuracy of the models.

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