Electric field from a charged disk

In summary, the conversation discusses the electric field experienced by a point at a certain distance away from a charged disk. The equation for the field is only valid for positive values of z and is discontinuous at z=0. This is due to the idealized nature of the situation and does not have a physical explanation.
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Bipolarity
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This is rather strange and has been bugging me, from chapter 22 (Electric fields) of Resnick & Halliday:

So suppose you have a charged disk of radius ##R## (the disk has no thickness and charge is uniformly spread on the surface of the disk). If you are at a distance ##z## away from the center of the disk (and orthogonal to the disk), the net electric field you experience is:

## E = \frac{\displaystyle zσ}{\displaystyle 4ε_{0}}\int^{R}_{0}(z^{2}+r^{2})^{-3/2}(2r)dr ##

Now if ## z = 0 ##, then it is clear that the field will be 0. This makes sense, because if you are at the center of the disk, then symmetry will ensure that the field induced by all charge is canceled out by the charge diametrically opposite to it on the disk.

But if you actually evaluate the integral, you get
## E = \frac{\displaystyle σ}{\displaystyle 2ε_{0}}(1- \frac{\displaystyle z}{\displaystyle \sqrt{z^{2}+R^{2}}} )##

Now the problem with this is that if you set z=0 here, you end up something nonzero! What is the issue here? Thanks!

BiP
 
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The equation is only valid for ##z > 0##

The electric field (and magnetic field of a surface current) due to a surface charge is discontinuous when you cross the surface.
 
  • #3
Why do you think the integral is non-zero?
 
  • #4
voko said:
Why do you think the integral is non-zero?

Plugging in z=0 for the second expression yields a nonzero value.

BiP
 
  • #5
Astrum answered the question, it isn't valid for ##z = 0##.
 
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Bipolarity said:
Plugging in z=0 for the second expression yields a nonzero value.

When you integrate, you get ## 1/z - 1/\sqrt {R^2 + z^2} ##. This is clearly only valid when ## z > 0 ##. You can then talk about the limit of that at ## z = 0 ##, but the limit of a function does not have to be equal to the value of the function.

In this case, the function is not continuous at ## z = 0 ##. Physically this is because we are dealing with an idealized situation, where the charge is spread over a 2D domain. Obviously you can expect that the idealization works reasonably wellwhen you are far enough from the surface, so that its thickness (or non-thickness) can be neglected, but when you get very close you need a better physical model, so puzzling over why the mathematical device breaks down is rather pointless.
 

1. What is an electric field from a charged disk?

An electric field from a charged disk is a region of space surrounding a charged disk where a force is exerted on other charged particles. The strength and direction of the electric field is determined by the magnitude and distribution of the charge on the disk.

2. How is the electric field from a charged disk calculated?

The electric field from a charged disk can be calculated using the formula E = (σ/2ε0)(1 - cosθ), where σ is the surface charge density of the disk, ε0 is the permittivity of free space, and θ is the angle between the point of interest and the perpendicular line from the center of the disk.

3. What does the direction of the electric field from a charged disk depend on?

The direction of the electric field from a charged disk depends on the location of the point of interest relative to the disk. At points directly above or below the disk, the electric field is perpendicular to the disk. At points to the side of the disk, the electric field is tangential to the disk.

4. How does the electric field from a charged disk change with distance?

The electric field from a charged disk follows an inverse square law, meaning that it decreases with the square of the distance from the disk. This means that the electric field is strongest near the disk and becomes weaker as you move further away.

5. What is the significance of the electric field from a charged disk?

The electric field from a charged disk is significant because it allows us to understand and predict the behavior of charged particles near the disk. It is also important in many practical applications, such as in electronic devices and in understanding the behavior of lightning strikes.

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