How big would this gear need to be?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of building a machine with a reverse gear set on the other side of a spinning concrete block to maintain its original speed. A proposal is made for an alternate design using a 200rpm motor and multiple gear reductions and step ups to achieve the desired speed. However, there are concerns about torque and precision of the gears, as well as the need for a flywheel and vibrations to overcome static friction.
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So I read the article above and it gave me an idea, I want to find out if it is possible to build this machine, but with a reverse gear set on the other side of the concrete that makes it spin back up to the original or close to the original speed. Obviously with the gear ratios he has used the losses and slack in the drive train would never work however I propose a this alternate design:

200rpm motor like he has only the block of concrete is on a gear that turns maybe every 8 hours, to the human eye this would look like it is not moving, then put the reverse gears back up to get it spinning on the other end eg:

5 * 10:1 gear reductions, then 5 * 1:10 gear step ups so rpm would be:
200, 20, 2, 0.2, 0.02, 0.002 (8.3 hours for 1 rpm) then step back up to 200 rpm.

How much torque would the middle gearset need to be able to take and hence would it be physically possible to build this machine and have it fit in your room? Even if you require an extra 6 or 7 gears on the reverse side to get the speed visible to the eye due to the torque losses.
 
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How much torque would the middle gearset need to be able to take
Neglecting losses in between, the torque the last axle needs to rotate multiplied by the reduction factor (10^5 in your example). And then you have to make your gears really precise, otherwise they will not rotate uniformly.
 
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High reduction ratio worm gears have high friction and cannot be driven backwards.

Using gears to speed things up is fraught with problems. Overdrive gearboxes are an example.

You will also need a flywheel on the output to maintain a smooth rotation rate.

Will torque break the input gear before it starts to move the output? Even if you use spur gear or epicyclic gears it may be necessary to provide some source of vibration or power to the output shaft so as to overcome static friction.
 

1. What is the purpose of the gear?

The size of the gear will depend on its purpose. Different gears are designed for different functions and will have varying sizes to accommodate their specific role.

2. What is the amount of weight the gear needs to support?

The weight that the gear needs to support will determine its size and strength. More weight will require a larger gear with a higher number of teeth to distribute the load evenly.

3. How much torque does the gear need to withstand?

Torque refers to the amount of force applied to rotate an object. The amount of torque that the gear needs to withstand will determine its size and material. Higher torque will require a larger gear and a stronger material to prevent breakage.

4. What is the speed of rotation required for the gear?

The speed of rotation will affect the size of the gear. Faster rotation will require a smaller gear with smaller teeth to maintain the desired speed.

5. What are the dimensions of the space available for the gear?

The size of the gear will need to fit within the available space. It is important to consider the dimensions of the gear and its placement to ensure proper functioning and avoid any interference with other components.

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