A conjecture on Greek-based biology before 1800 C.E.

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential impact of Ancient Greek biology on the development of evolutionary biology. It mentions key figures who preceded 1800 C.E., such as Descartes and Carolus Linnaeus, and their contributions to biology. The conversation also touches on the works of Plato and Aristotle, and their differing views on the origin of life and species. It raises the question of whether evolutionary biology could have still been developed within the framework of Ancient Greek biology.
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This conjecture does not include Descartes (1596 C.E.-1650 C.E.), Carolus Linnaeus (1707 C.E.-1778 C.E.), and others who preceded 1800 C.E. evolutionary biologists.

I have often wondered how the history of biology might have turned out differently without the contributions of the Darwin family and other natural biologists of the 1800s, and Gregor Mendel (1822 C.E.-1884 C.E.) and other geneticists, and the 1920s synthesis of the two sources. And yet, perhaps it would not have turned out all that differently…

First, a quick review of Ancient Greek biology:

Empedocles and the pre-Socratic Atomists may have contributed ideas that constitute an early basis for chance-like processes of transformism.

Plato’s (427 B.C.E.-327 B.C.E.) writings opposed this transformism. His long creation myth, Timaeus, in dialogue form, presented an account of a Craftsman (demiourgos) who fashioned the cosmos and its living being, patterning them after eternal archetypes or forms.

Aristotle (384 B.C.E.-322 B.C.E.) wrote authoritative works on biology. In his view, the soul (psyche) in the case of living beings provided the formal, final, and efficient cause of life (De anima II: 415b 10-30). Aristotle sided against a historical origin of the world, and agreed with an eternity of world history. The soul-as-form (eidos) was to be considered permanent and not changing over time, except for local adaptations in "accidental" properties.

Aristotle may have been more committed to the eternity of the three main "genera": plants, animals, and humans (De generatione animalium II. 731b 32-732a5). When Aristotle's texts were recovered in the late Middle Ages, assumptions were made as to Aritotle's additional views on fixity of species. When reconciled with the theology of creation, the eternity of species had to be denied. (Biblical creation conflicted with eternity of species by citing a creation date for the origin of all species.)

Aristotle's biology ranked living organisms in a hierarchy:
At the bottom was lifeless matter, transitioning slowly to living matter.
Above lifeless matter was ranked the vegetable kingdom. Although living, it appeared lifeless compared to animals. Then the vegetable kingdom slowly transitioned to the animal kingdom.
The animal kingdom emerged gradually, starting with the lowest animals. The progression continued from the simple to the more perfect. Animals transitioned through apes to man, the highest stage, and the end and aim of the whole progression.
Man's kingdom is the culmination of the ranking of the living organisms.

Now, the topic of my question is:
Would it have been possible to work within the realm of later reverence for Ancient Greek biology, and still develop evolutionary biology? Aristotle was a supreme biologist who compiled a large amount of observations and categorized them. He analyzed the limbs of animals with logic and his reputation is well known. I suspect that a non-Biblical interpretation of Ancient Greek biology could have developed either an improved science of biology by 1800 or evolutionary biology with a different history and entailing other sources, events, and discoveries.
 
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It took a long time for scientists to overcome Aristotle's ideas and erroneous theories about the physical world so that a proper scientific method could be developed. I suspect the same could be said about biologists trying to make sense of a hypothetical Aristotelian biology. Aristotle is rightly celebrated for his breadth of study and the adoption of an empirical philosophy, but some of his ideas, especially in the physical sciences, were whack.
 
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A good place to end.
 

1. What is the conjecture on Greek-based biology before 1800 C.E.?

The conjecture on Greek-based biology before 1800 C.E. is the idea that ancient Greek philosophers and scientists had significant contributions to the development of biology, despite the common belief that modern biology began in the 19th century with the work of scientists like Charles Darwin and Gregor Mendel.

2. What evidence supports this conjecture?

There is evidence that ancient Greek philosophers such as Aristotle and Hippocrates had a deep understanding of biology, including concepts like embryology, classification of living organisms, and the role of nature in shaping living beings. Additionally, many of their theories and observations have influenced modern biological thought and continue to be relevant today.

3. How did the ancient Greeks view the natural world?

The ancient Greeks saw the natural world as a source of knowledge and wisdom, and they were curious about the workings of the natural world. They believed that nature followed certain patterns and that these patterns could be understood through observation and reasoning.

4. Did the ancient Greeks conduct experiments in biology?

While they did not conduct experiments in the modern sense, the ancient Greeks did engage in careful observation and systematic thinking about the natural world. They also performed dissections and other physical examinations of plants and animals to better understand their structures and functions.

5. How did the Greek-based ideas in biology influence later scientific thought?

The Greek-based ideas in biology had a significant impact on later scientific thought. The concepts of natural selection, the four humors, and the classification of living organisms were all first proposed by ancient Greek philosophers and have continued to shape modern biological thought and research. Many of their observations and theories laid the foundation for the development of modern biology.

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