Integral with infinitesimal under root

In summary, the conversation discusses the computation of the integral $$\int f(x,y) \sqrt{dx^2+dy^2}$$ and whether the property of passing the integral under the square root is valid. It is suggested that converting to polar coordinates may make the computation easier. It is also mentioned that the notation may be interpreted as a surface or line integral.
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Jhenrique
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I want compute the following integral:

$$\\ \int f(x,y) \sqrt{dx^2+dy^2}$$
Is correct this pass-by-pass:
$$\\ \sqrt{\left( \int f(x,y) \right)^2} \sqrt{dx^2+dy^2} = \sqrt{\left( \int f(x,y) \right)^2 (dx^2+dy^2)} = \sqrt{\left( \int f(x,y) \right)^2 dx^2 + \left( \int f(x,y) \right)^2 dy^2} = \sqrt{\left( \int f(x,y) dx \right)^2 + \left( \int f(x,y) dy\right)^2}$$
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Jhenrique said:
I want compute the following integral:

$$\\ \int f(x,y) \sqrt{dx^2+dy^2}$$

Please define what this means. Or at least, please tell us where you saw this.
 
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The only time that I have ever seen notation like this is when ##x## and ##y## can be parameterized. Then This is interpreted as
##\displaystyle\int f(x,y)\sqrt{\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)^2dt^2+\left(\frac{dy}{dt}\right)^2dt^2}=\int f(x,y)\sqrt{x'(t)^2+y'(t)^2}dt##
which may be hard to compute but should make sense. Passing the integral under the square root does not make sense. An integral is a limit of sums which can't be passed under the square root.

The integral property ##\left|\int fdx\right|\leq\int\left|\ fdx\right|## should convince you that your first step is not guaranteed to work.
 
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Converting to polar coordinates is an option, that ugly square-root will become ##dr##.
 
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verty said:
Converting to polar coordinates is an option, that ugly square-root will become ##dr##.

That's true too. It depends on whether this is a surface or line integral.
 
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1. What is an integral with infinitesimal under root?

An integral with infinitesimal under root is a type of mathematical integral that involves taking the square root of a function and integrating it over a certain range. This type of integral is often used in calculus and physics to solve problems involving motion, force, and energy.

2. How is an integral with infinitesimal under root different from a regular integral?

An integral with infinitesimal under root is different from a regular integral because it involves taking the square root of the integrand, which can change the complexity of the integration. Additionally, the limits of integration may also change when using an integral with infinitesimal under root.

3. What are some applications of integrals with infinitesimal under root?

Integrals with infinitesimal under root have many applications in physics and engineering. For example, they can be used to calculate the kinetic energy of a moving object or the potential energy of a system. They are also used in calculating work done by a force and in solving differential equations in physics.

4. How do you solve an integral with infinitesimal under root?

Solving an integral with infinitesimal under root requires using integration techniques such as substitution, integration by parts, or trigonometric identities. It is important to carefully choose the limits of integration and to keep track of any changes made to the integrand when taking the square root.

5. Are there any limitations to using integrals with infinitesimal under root?

One limitation of using integrals with infinitesimal under root is that they can be more complex and difficult to solve compared to regular integrals. Additionally, they may not always give exact solutions and may only provide approximate values. It is important to carefully consider the problem and the applicability of using this type of integral before incorporating it into a solution.

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