Proof - irrational numbers

In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove that if x^2 is irrational, then x must also be irrational. They suggest using proof by contradiction, and one person provides a possible starting point by assuming x is rational and showing that x^2 would also be rational, leading to a contradiction. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of clearly defining a and b when discussing rational numbers.
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Homework Statement



Prove that if x^2 is irrational then x must be irrational.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Maybe do proof by contradiction. I'm not really sure where to start.
 
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Proof by contradiction sounds good. What if x is rational?
 
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"Suppose x is rational. Then x= __________"
 
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so i let x= a/b

then obviously x^2 = a^2/b^2

im not sure how to continue to reach the contradiction
 
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Assume x^2 is irrational and x is NOT irrational. You've shown that in such a case, x^2 is rational. That's a contradiction. x^2 can't be both rational and irrational. Therefore x must be irrational.
 
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kmeado07 said:
so i let x= a/b

then obviously x^2 = a^2/b^2

im not sure how to continue to reach the contradiction

It is not enough just to say "let x= a/b" without saying what a and b are. A number is rational if and only if it can be expressed as a ratio of integers: a/b where a and b are integers (and b is not 0). If x is rational, the x= a/b where a and b are integers. You arrive at the fact that x2= a2/b2, also a ratio of integers. That itself contradicts the hypothesis, that x2 is irrational.
 

What are irrational numbers?

Irrational numbers are numbers that cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers. They are non-terminating and non-repeating decimals. Some examples of irrational numbers are pi (3.14159...), e (2.71828...), and the square root of 2 (1.41421...).

How do you prove that a number is irrational?

There are various methods to prove that a number is irrational. One way is to show that the number cannot be written as a ratio of two integers. Another way is to use the proof by contradiction method, assuming that the number can be written as a ratio and then showing that it leads to a contradiction.

Can an irrational number be written in decimal form?

Yes, irrational numbers can be written in decimal form but they will be non-terminating and non-repeating. This means that the decimal representation will go on forever without repeating the same sequence of digits.

Are all square roots irrational numbers?

No, not all square roots are irrational numbers. For example, the square root of 4 is 2 which is a rational number. However, the square root of non-perfect squares (numbers that are not perfect squares) are irrational numbers.

What is the difference between a rational and irrational number?

The main difference between rational and irrational numbers is that rational numbers can be written as a ratio of two integers, while irrational numbers cannot. Rational numbers also have a finite or repeating decimal representation, while irrational numbers have a non-terminating and non-repeating decimal representation.

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