Replace traditional toggle lever with magnetic cylinders

In summary, the conversation is about a complicated project to replace a patented and proven system with magnetic pressure on four points of lifting in a packaging machinery company. The main questions revolve around the availability of magnetic coils for lifting the weight, response time, and the benefits of this design change. The machine section being built has a life expectancy of around 50 years, and the goal is to achieve the same longevity as competitors who have a life of 100 to 120 years. The concerns regarding space, power, and cooling are due to the size of the coils and the frequency of cycling. The improvements sought include eliminating moving parts, reducing friction and noise, and achieving electrically controlled movement of the bed for increased precision. Custom building the magnets
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vikramnayak
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Hi there,
Currently I'm working on a complicated project. I work for a packaging machinery company.

The machine I'm currently working on has a critical section which you would call the 'the heart'.
Here we move a 800KG (1700 Pounds) bed up and down by 50mm (2 inches). On the bottom of this bed we have four points of lifting attached to 4 levers. These levers are then attached to a crankshaft by means of connecting rods. This system is patented and proven since the 60s.

We'd like to replace this system by using magnetic pressure on these four points.

My main question, are there magnetic coils already in the industry than can lift this weight?. Also what would be the response time generally ?.

Thanks
 
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The weight of your 'heart' is not a problem.
What matters is how much space there is for the electromagnets with their power and cooling lines and how short the cycle time is expected to be.
What benefits do you hope to get from this design change? Eliminate lubrication requirements, reliability, flexibility?
 
  • #3
No issues, eliminate moving parts

This machine section we're building has a life expectancy of around 50 years, with minimum maintenance such as oil changes. Our competitors make the same unit and have a life of around 100 to 120 years. We even checked the pins suspending the top bed of a 87 year old machine, not a scratch. We'd like to achieve the same.
This change will have minimum friction, very less noise, electrically controlled movement of the bed increasing precision. Space is not an issue.
Power consumption , cooling requirements etc are not an issue since this will just be a prototype. I now assume electromagnets are not available for this requirement. I f we had to custom build these magnets, what formulas could we use to determine electrical and mechanical requirements ?

Here's a link of the existing design - http://www.google.co.in/patents?id=mmplAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

Part 22 of FIG 1 is the massive bed we're trying to move vertically with electromagnets.
 
  • #4
The concern re space, power and cooling was because the coils are not small and if the press is to cycle at a decent clip, there will be some heating as the magnets are turned on and off multiple times per minute.
The improvements sought seem quite realistic, although the 'electrically controlled movement of the bed' aspect is an expensive item. It is a lot cheaper to just size the magnets to push or pull the heart with a certain force, essentially give it a shove, than it is to modulate that force over time to precisely control the movement of the heart. That is more a linear motor action than just an impulse, so control circuitry and sensors will be needed, which introduces potential sources of failure. I don't know of such setups having anywhere close to the 50-100 year longevity you are seeking without periodic maintenance.
 
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Custom

Is there any way we could custom build the magnets, using set formulas for current and force ?
 
  • #6
You can build your own magnets and you have lots of design freedom. Simplest is probably to just pull the heart against its die by having the levers serve as cores pulled into electromagnetic coils, but there are lots of other approaches. The specifics depend on how often the system cycles and how much control you want over the force with which the heart meets the die. Do note that introducing controls requires adding sensors, which reduces reliability and increases cost.
 

1. What are the advantages of using magnetic cylinders instead of traditional toggle levers?

The main advantage of using magnetic cylinders is their increased precision and accuracy. As opposed to toggle levers, which rely on mechanical movement, magnetic cylinders use electromagnets to control the motion of the cylinder, resulting in more precise and consistent movements. Additionally, magnetic cylinders are more durable and require less maintenance compared to toggle levers.

2. How do magnetic cylinders work?

Magnetic cylinders work by using electromagnets to control the motion of the cylinder. The electromagnets create a magnetic field that interacts with the magnetic material on the cylinder, causing it to move in a specific direction. By varying the strength and direction of the magnetic field, the cylinder can be controlled to move in different ways.

3. Can magnetic cylinders be used in all types of machinery?

Yes, magnetic cylinders can be used in a variety of machinery, including but not limited to printing presses, packaging machines, and assembly lines. As long as the machinery requires precise and consistent movement, magnetic cylinders can be a suitable replacement for traditional toggle levers.

4. Are there any potential drawbacks to using magnetic cylinders?

One potential drawback of using magnetic cylinders is their initial cost, as they can be more expensive than traditional toggle levers. However, this cost is often offset by their increased precision and durability, resulting in long-term cost savings. Additionally, magnetic cylinders may require specialized training or software to operate, which can also add to the overall cost.

5. How easy is it to replace traditional toggle levers with magnetic cylinders?

The process of replacing traditional toggle levers with magnetic cylinders will depend on the specific machinery and its design. In some cases, it may be a simple and straightforward swap, while in others, it may require modifications to accommodate the different mechanism. It is best to consult with a professional to determine the feasibility and process of replacing toggle levers with magnetic cylinders in a specific machine.

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