Prove Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral

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In summary, the conversation discusses a bounded function f:[a, b]->R where f(x) = 0 for each rational number x in [a, b]. The task is to prove that the Lower Integral is less than or equal to 0 and the Upper Integral is greater than or equal to 0. It is suggested that the function must cross f(x) = 0 at some point, but the Intermediate Value Theorem cannot be applied if the function is discontinuous. However, it is noted that every interval of nonzero size contains a rational number, so the minimum of f(x) on the interval must be less than or equal to 0 and the maximum must be greater than or equal to 0.
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Suppose f:[a, b]-> R is bounded function
f(x)=0 for each rational number x in [a, b]
Prove Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral

Proof:
f(x) = 0 when x is rational
both L(f, p) = U(f, P) = 0
and L(f, p) <= Lower Integral <= Upper Integral <= U(f, p)

This function seems like discontinous even though there aren't any information of functional value when x is NOT rational. It looks like that the Intermediate Value Theorem or Mean Value Theorem need to be appplied.

So I have to prove that the Lower Integral <=0, and the Upper Integral >=0. So the function itself has to cross f(x)=0 isn't it?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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There's no IVT if the function isn't continuous. The point is that every interval of nonzero size contains a rational number. So the min of f(x) on the interval MUST be <=0 and the max of f(x) on the interval is >=0. It's a lot less complicated than you think it is.
 
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Oh, I see. Thanks!
 

1. What is the meaning of "Prove Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral"?

This statement is a mathematical inequality that is used to prove that the lower integral of a function is less than or equal to 0, which is then followed by the upper integral being greater than or equal to 0. It is commonly used in calculus to determine the convergence or divergence of a function.

2. How do you calculate the lower integral of a function?

The lower integral of a function is calculated using the Riemann sum method, where the function is divided into smaller intervals and the area under the curve is approximated by rectangles. The lower integral is then the sum of the areas of the largest rectangles within each interval.

3. Can the lower integral ever be greater than 0?

No, the lower integral of a function cannot be greater than 0. This is because the lower integral represents the area under the curve of a function that is below the x-axis, and any area below the x-axis is considered negative. Therefore, the lower integral can only be equal to or less than 0.

4. What is the significance of proving that the lower integral <= 0 <= upper integral?

Proving this inequality is important because it helps to determine the behavior of a function. If the lower integral is equal to 0, then the function is considered to be convergent. However, if the lower integral is less than 0, then the function is divergent. This can also help in finding the area under the curve of a function.

5. Are there any exceptions to the "Prove Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral" inequality?

Yes, there are some exceptions where the inequality may not hold true. For example, if the function is undefined or has a discontinuity within the interval being considered, then the inequality may not be valid. Additionally, some functions may have a lower integral that is equal to 0, but the upper integral is not greater than 0, which would also not satisfy the inequality.

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