Energy stored in the biosphere?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the falsification of the young Earth creationist viewpoint and the potential impact of scientific evidence on it. The main focus is on the energy stored in the biosphere and its relation to fossil fuel production, with sources estimating the total energy in the biosphere to be around 10^25 joules and the energy stored in living organisms to be about 2.2×10^21 joules. The conversation also mentions the difficulty in convincing those with opposing beliefs and encourages utilizing forums for scientific discussions and learning.
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Hi, 1st post.

I am interested in the following falsification of the young Earth creationist(YEC) viewpoint. The Earth is obviously old but it is not so obvious to the uneducated. So I am hoping this argument will be easy enough to comprehend that it will provide a source of serious doubt for some YECs.

Their model (for the majority anyhow) is that the global flud of Noah created the geologic column and is the event that created fossil fuels.

I've come across a figure for the total energy of all the fossil fuels stored in the Earth here:
http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/152461/
It is 5x10^19 kilogram-calories or 2.1x10^23 Joules

The figure I am missing and can't seem to find utilizing google is what amount of energy is stored in the biosphere that would have been available to be turned into fossil fuels by the flud of Noah. I hope you can see where I am going with this.

A YEC needs to have a factor between the fossil fuel energy and the biosphere energy close to one. If the factor is orders of magnitude greater which I suspect it is then that creates a nice piece of data to further falsify the YEC paradigm.

So are there any figures available for the energy stored within the biosphere (that portion that would contribute to fossil fuel production)? Thanks.
 
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Welcome to the forums RGK. We generally don't allow these sort of debunking threads, especially on these topics. The type of people you wish to argue with won't listen to your facts anyway, there is already a mountain of evidence they are ignoring so why would one more point hammer it home? This thread will remain locked but please feel free to utilise these forums for learning and discussing scientific subjects you are interested in.
 
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Hi there, welcome to the forum! It's great to see someone interested in exploring and understanding different viewpoints.

I can definitely see where you're going with your argument. It's always interesting to see how scientific evidence can challenge certain beliefs and theories. I'm not an expert on this topic, but I did a quick search and found a few sources that might be helpful in your search for the energy stored in the biosphere.

According to this article from the National Geographic (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/biosphere), the total energy available in the biosphere is estimated to be around 10^25 joules. However, this includes all forms of energy, not just the ones that could contribute to fossil fuel production.

I also found this research article (https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo578) which estimates the amount of energy stored in living organisms to be about 2.2×10^21 joules. Again, this is not just the portion that could contribute to fossil fuel production, but it might give you a better idea of the scale.

I hope this helps in your research and argument! Good luck.
 

1. What is energy stored in the biosphere?

The energy stored in the biosphere is the potential energy contained within living organisms and organic matter. This includes energy stored in the form of biomass, such as plants and animals, as well as in organic compounds like carbohydrates, lipids, and proteins.

2. How is energy stored in the biosphere?

Energy is stored in the biosphere through the process of photosynthesis, where plants use sunlight to convert carbon dioxide and water into organic compounds that can be used for energy. These organic compounds are then consumed by other organisms, transferring the stored energy throughout the food chain.

3. Why is energy storage in the biosphere important?

The storage of energy in the biosphere is crucial for the survival and functioning of living organisms. It provides the necessary fuel for growth, reproduction, and metabolism. It also plays a vital role in maintaining the balance of ecosystems and the overall health of the planet.

4. How does energy stored in the biosphere impact the environment?

The storage and transfer of energy within the biosphere can have significant impacts on the environment. For example, the burning of fossil fuels, which are formed from the remains of ancient organic matter, releases stored energy and contributes to climate change. On the other hand, the use of renewable energy sources, like biomass, can help reduce our carbon footprint and mitigate the effects of climate change.

5. Can energy stored in the biosphere be replenished?

Yes, energy stored in the biosphere can be replenished through the natural processes of photosynthesis and the carbon cycle. However, it is essential to manage and use these energy sources sustainably to ensure their replenishment and prevent depletion. Practices such as reforestation and sustainable agriculture can help maintain and restore the balance of energy storage in the biosphere.

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