Evaluating limit by converting to integral

In summary, the conversation discusses evaluating a limit involving an integral and suggests using different techniques such as integrating by parts and using substitutions. One person suggests using the maclaurin expansion of log(t+1) and provides a solution, but it is deleted by a moderator due to the possibility of the original post being related to schoolwork. The initial hint is deemed a good approach to solving the integral.
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manankhurma
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Trying to evaluate the a limit, the following integral came up:

[itex]\int_0^1 \dfrac{log(1+t)}{t}dt[/itex]

How can this integral be evaluated using basic techniques?
 
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welcome to pf!

hi manankhurma! welcome to pf! :smile:

hmm :rolleyes: … looks symmetric, doesn't it? :wink:

try integrating by parts, then using a substitution, and fiddling around …

what do you get? :smile:
 
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I would use a different method, this is a complicated integral. And it is hard if not impossible to solve it using standard methods. Below is one way to evaluate it

[tex]I = \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\log(t+1)}{t} \mathrm{d}t[/tex]

Since we are integrating over [0,1] a smart idea, is to use the maclaurin expansion of [tex]\log(t+1) = t - \frac{1}{2}t^2 + \frac{1}{3}t^3 - \frac{1}{4}t^4 + ... + \frac{1}{n}(-t)^{n} [/tex]

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Although you did give an answer without the OP showing much effort, I must say that the above solution is very elegant!
 
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Nebuchadnezza said:
I would use a different method, this is a complicated integral. And it is hard if not impossible to solve it using standard methods. Below is one way to evaluate it

[tex]I = \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\log(t+1)}{t} \mathrm{d}t[/tex]

Since we are integrating over [0,1] a smart idea, is to use the maclaurin expansion of [tex]\log(t+1) = t - \frac{1}{2}t^2 + \frac{1}{3}t^3 - \frac{1}{4}t^4 + ... + \frac{1}{n}(-t)^{n} [/tex]

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Even though this thread was originally posted in the general technical math forums, you should assume that the OP is posting something related to schoolwork, especially if they show no effort to solve it on their own.

The thread is moved to the Homeowork Help forums, and I've deleted the end of your post with the worked-out solution. Your initial hint is very good.
 

1. What is the purpose of converting a limit to an integral?

The purpose of converting a limit to an integral is to evaluate the limit when it involves a continuous function or an infinite series. This method can provide a more efficient way of computing limits compared to direct substitution or algebraic manipulation.

2. How do you convert a limit to an integral?

To convert a limit to an integral, you need to first rewrite the limit in the form of a Riemann sum. Then, you can take the limit of the Riemann sum as the partition size approaches zero. This will result in the integral of the function that represents the limit.

3. Can all limits be converted to integrals?

No, not all limits can be converted to integrals. This method only works for limits that involve continuous functions or infinite series. Limits that involve discontinuous functions or have complex behavior may not be able to be evaluated using this method.

4. What are the advantages of using this method to evaluate limits?

One advantage of converting a limit to an integral is that it can provide a more efficient way of computing limits compared to other methods. It can also give more insight into the behavior of the function as the limit approaches a certain value. Additionally, it allows for the use of integration techniques to evaluate the limit, which can be helpful in certain cases.

5. Are there any limitations to using this method?

One limitation of converting a limit to an integral is that it may not work for all limits. As mentioned earlier, it only works for limits involving continuous functions or infinite series. Additionally, it may not be a feasible method to use in certain cases, such as when the function is not easily integrable or when the limit involves more than one variable.

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