Can we obtain a permanently polarized ice?

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In summary, the result of the experiment is that when water is placed in a uniform electrostatic field and then rapidly cooled, it becomes solid. However, turning off the electrostatic field does not result in a permanently polarized piece of ice, likely due to the water's diamagnetic nature. The conversation also clarifies that the experiment involves an electric field, not a magnetic one.
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What is the result of the following experiment?

We put an amount of water in a uniform electrostatic field. We get a polarisation.
Keeping the polarizing field, we cool rapidly the water until it became solid.
We turn off the polarizing field.
Do we obtain a permanently polarized piece of ice? If not, what prevents that from
happening?
 
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I did not realize that you could polarise water given it's diamagnetic nature. I would imagine that the water would set up an orbital magnetic field under the influence of an external magnetic field, I'm not sure that you actually could freeze magnetic force lines into frozen water, but if you could; it would be a diamagnetic orbital field and not a polarised one...I think?
 
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He's talking about an electric field, not a magnetic one Velikovsky.
 

1. What is a permanently polarized ice?

A permanently polarized ice refers to ice that has a permanent electric dipole moment, meaning the charges within the ice molecules are permanently separated. This type of ice is also known as ferroelectric ice.

2. Is it possible to obtain a permanently polarized ice in nature?

Currently, there is no evidence of naturally occurring permanently polarized ice. However, some scientists believe that certain conditions in space, such as extreme temperatures and pressure, may potentially create ferroelectric ice.

3. What methods have been used to create ferroelectric ice in the laboratory?

Scientists have used various methods, such as applying high pressure to water molecules, cooling water to extremely low temperatures, and using strong electric fields, to create ferroelectric ice in the laboratory. However, these methods have not yet been successful in creating a stable and permanent ferroelectric ice.

4. Why is the creation of a permanently polarized ice important?

Ferroelectric ice has unique properties that could have potential applications in various fields, such as energy storage, sensors, and data storage. Understanding and being able to create this type of ice could also provide insights into the behavior of water molecules and the fundamental nature of ice.

5. What challenges are scientists facing in obtaining a permanently polarized ice?

One of the main challenges is finding the right conditions and methods to create a stable and permanent ferroelectric ice. Another challenge is understanding the complex behavior of water molecules and how they interact under extreme conditions. Additionally, the study of ferroelectric ice is still a relatively new field, so there is still much to be learned and discovered about its properties and potential uses.

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