Constructing f for Int'l Limit Existence, Not |f|

In summary, a function can have a finite limit as c approaches 0 even if it fails to exist with its absolute value in place of f.
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Homework Statement


Suppose f is a real function on (0,1] and f is Riemann-integrable on [c,1] for every c>0. Define

[tex]\int_0^1 f(x) dx = \lim_{c\to 0} \int_c^1 f(x) dx[/tex]

if this limit exists and is finite.

Construct a function f such that the above limit exists, although it fails to exist with |f| in place of f.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I think f(x) = sin(1/x)/x will work although I am having trouble proving it. It seems intuitively true that the limit exists since the positive and negative humps will cancel and the oscillations in the integral will get get smaller and smaller as c gets smaller and smaller. I am not really sure how to prove that the limit diverges when we take the absolute value of f.
 
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Any suggestions or corrections would be greatly appreciated.Your proposed function, f(x) = sin(1/x)/x, is a good choice to demonstrate the concept. Here's a proof that the limit exists for f(x) but not for |f(x)|:

First, let's show that the limit exists for f(x). We can rewrite the integral as:

\int_c^1 f(x) dx = \int_c^1 \frac{sin(1/x)}{x} dx

Using u-substitution with u = 1/x, we get:

\int_c^1 \frac{sin(1/x)}{x} dx = \int_{1/c}^1 \frac{sin(u)}{u} du

Now, as c approaches 0, 1/c approaches infinity. This means that the integral will be over a larger and larger interval, but the function we are integrating, sin(u)/u, will become more and more oscillatory. However, since the function is bounded between -1 and 1, the oscillations will not cause the integral to diverge. In other words, as c approaches 0, the integral will be over a larger and larger interval, but the function will be bounded, so the integral will converge.

Next, let's show that the limit does not exist for |f(x)|. Again, using u-substitution, we get:

\int_c^1 \frac{|sin(1/x)|}{x} dx = \int_{1/c}^1 \frac{|sin(u)|}{u} du

Now, as c approaches 0, the integral will be over a larger and larger interval, and the function we are integrating, |sin(u)|/u, will also become more and more oscillatory. However, unlike the previous case, this function is not bounded. In fact, it has a singularity at u = 0, which means that the integral will diverge as c approaches 0.

Therefore, the limit exists for f(x) but not for |f(x)|, as desired.
 

1. What is the significance of constructing f for international limit existence?

The construction of f for international limit existence is important because it allows us to analyze the behavior of functions in a broader context. By considering the behavior of a function at infinity, we can gain a better understanding of its overall behavior and potential limit existence.

2. How does the construction of f for international limit existence differ from other methods of analysis?

The construction of f for international limit existence is a more comprehensive approach to analyzing the behavior of functions. Unlike other methods that focus on the behavior of a function at a specific point or interval, this approach considers the behavior at infinity, providing a more complete understanding of the function.

3. What is the role of the modulus function in constructing f for international limit existence?

The modulus function, |f|, plays a crucial role in this construction as it allows us to focus on the absolute value of a function, regardless of its sign. This is important when dealing with functions that may have different behaviors in different regions, as it provides a way to standardize the analysis.

4. Can you provide an example of constructing f for international limit existence?

Sure, let's consider the function f(x) = 1/(x-1). To construct f for international limit existence, we would first take the modulus of the function, giving us |f(x)| = 1/|x-1|. We then analyze the limit of this function as x approaches infinity, which would be 0. This tells us that f has a limit at infinity, and we can conclude that f has international limit existence.

5. How does the construction of f for international limit existence impact real-world applications?

The construction of f for international limit existence has a wide range of applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and economics. It allows us to make more accurate predictions about the behavior of functions, which can be useful in designing systems and making informed decisions. For example, in economics, this approach can help us analyze the long-term behavior of economic models and make better projections for the future.

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