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| Mar19-13, 04:39 AM | #1 |
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Finding an expression for x(t)
Suppose I have a particle on a line, and I know some function a(x) and the initial x, v, and a. How could I work out x(t)?
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| Mar19-13, 04:54 AM | #2 |
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integrate!
v(t) = integral of a(t)dt + v(t=0) x(t) = integral of v(t)dt + x(t=0) |
| Mar19-13, 05:01 AM | #3 |
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Thanks for the reply.
From what I understand your solution requires me to know a(t), but what can I do if I only know a(x)? |
| Mar19-13, 05:59 AM | #4 |
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Finding an expression for x(t)
Ah, then you have:
x''(t) = f(x(t)) This is a 2nd order autonomous differential equation with a general solution, although if f is tricky then you might need a numerical integrator to solve it. The trick is to multiply through by 2x'(t) then factor the left side into ((x'(t))^2)'. Then you can find x(t) by integrating, taking the square root, and integrating again. |
| Mar19-13, 06:02 AM | #5 |
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Thanks a lot!
I think I've seen that method applied before to simple harmonic motion, I wish I made the connection earlier. |
| Mar19-13, 06:04 AM | #6 |
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No problem. It caught me a little off guard as well!
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| Mar19-13, 06:05 AM | #7 |
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If you only know a(x), you can use the following:
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt} = \frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt} = v \frac{dv}{dx} = a(x)[/tex] Then: [tex]\int v dv = \frac{v^2}{2}= \int a(x) dx[/tex] After integrating, this can be solved for v(x). Then: [tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = v(x)[/tex] [tex]\int dt = t = \int \frac{dx}{v(x)}[/tex] After integrating, this gives t(x), which can then be inverted to give x(t). This procedure can be complicated and mathematically difficult, but it will work, at least numerically. |
| Mar19-13, 06:11 AM | #8 |
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Thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for
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| Mar19-13, 06:14 AM | #9 |
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I just repeated the same thing that phyzguy said. |
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