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Finding an expression for x(t)

 
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Mar19-13, 04:39 AM   #1
 

Finding an expression for x(t)


Suppose I have a particle on a line, and I know some function a(x) and the initial x, v, and a. How could I work out x(t)?
 
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Mar19-13, 04:54 AM   #2
 
integrate!

v(t) = integral of a(t)dt + v(t=0)
x(t) = integral of v(t)dt + x(t=0)
 
Mar19-13, 05:01 AM   #3
 
Thanks for the reply.
From what I understand your solution requires me to know a(t), but what can I do if I only know a(x)?
 
Mar19-13, 05:59 AM   #4
 

Finding an expression for x(t)


Ah, then you have:

x''(t) = f(x(t))

This is a 2nd order autonomous differential equation with a general solution, although if f is tricky then you might need a numerical integrator to solve it. The trick is to multiply through by 2x'(t) then factor the left side into ((x'(t))^2)'. Then you can find x(t) by integrating, taking the square root, and integrating again.
 
Mar19-13, 06:02 AM   #5
 
Thanks a lot!
I think I've seen that method applied before to simple harmonic motion, I wish I made the connection earlier.
 
Mar19-13, 06:04 AM   #6
 
No problem. It caught me a little off guard as well!
 
Mar19-13, 06:05 AM   #7
 
If you only know a(x), you can use the following:
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt} = \frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt} = v \frac{dv}{dx} = a(x)[/tex]
Then:
[tex]\int v dv = \frac{v^2}{2}= \int a(x) dx[/tex]
After integrating, this can be solved for v(x). Then:
[tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = v(x)[/tex]
[tex]\int dt = t = \int \frac{dx}{v(x)}[/tex]
After integrating, this gives t(x), which can then be inverted to give x(t). This procedure can be complicated and mathematically difficult, but it will work, at least numerically.
 
Mar19-13, 06:11 AM   #8
 
Thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for
 
Mar19-13, 06:14 AM   #9
 
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I just repeated the same thing that phyzguy said.
 
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