Alkali Metal Thermal Electric Conversion (AMTEC)

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential use of an alkali-metal thermal to electric converter for high-power conversion of nuclear thermal energy to electricity. The converter is thermally regenerative and could be used for continuous operation over long periods of time. However, there are challenges such as low power output with current materials and potential loss of stealth. The idea has been proposed for use in nuclear-electric propulsion for spacecraft and submarines, but there are concerns about the efficiency and impact on stealth.
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sanman
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Here's an interesting technology I came across:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkali-metal_thermal_to_electric_converter

So, from this I take it that a means of high-power conversion of nuclear thermal energy to electricity could be achieved. It says it only works upto 1400C, but that seems fine enough for conversion of nuclear thermal energy.

The nice thing is that it's thermally regenerative, which will facilitate continuous operation over long periods. It seems like it would be a nice way to allow nuclear-electric propulsion for spacecraft .
 
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The thermo electric effect is real. It is used on the Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft .

I once heard an admiral propose nuclear thermo electric for submarines. It is less than 5% efficient, but that matters little. What does matter is lifetime, simplicity, reliability, and simple end-of-life disposal of waste. The admiral saw all four of those measures as favorable for the idea.
 
  • #3
The idea has some advantages, as ocean water could serve as the cold end of the thermoelectric circuit.
The challenge is the low power output of the concept with current materials. There is also a real loss of stealth if the sub pumps 95% of the reactor energy into the creation of a thermal plume
 
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etudiant said:
There is also a real loss of stealth if the sub pumps 95% of the reactor energy into the creation of a thermal plume
Good point. But how to calculate relative stealthiness compared to dumping 67% of the energy as a thermal plume?
 
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There have long been rumors that nuclear subs leave long lasting contrails of slightly warmer water behind them, trails that sometimes can eventually be detected by satellite IR sensors, presumably at night when sun glint is not an issue. So I'd expect the submariners to be reluctant to dump 20x more heat per effective horsepower rather than 2x.
 

1. What is AMTEC?

Alkali Metal Thermal Electric Conversion (AMTEC) is a type of thermal-to-electric energy conversion technology that uses a porous ceramic membrane filled with alkali metal vapor to generate electricity from a heat source.

2. How does AMTEC work?

AMTEC works by using a temperature gradient to cause an alkali metal, such as sodium or potassium, to vaporize and flow through a porous ceramic membrane. This creates an electric potential across the membrane, which can then be used to generate electricity.

3. What are the advantages of AMTEC?

AMTEC has several advantages, including high efficiency, scalability, and the ability to operate at high temperatures. It also has no moving parts, making it a reliable and low-maintenance technology.

4. What are the potential applications of AMTEC?

AMTEC can be used in a variety of applications, including power generation, waste heat recovery, and space exploration. It has the potential to replace traditional combustion-based power generation methods and provide clean and sustainable energy.

5. What are the current challenges facing AMTEC?

Some of the current challenges facing AMTEC include improving the efficiency of the technology, finding suitable materials for the ceramic membrane, and reducing the cost of production. Research and development efforts are ongoing to address these challenges and make AMTEC a viable option for widespread use.

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