Personal epiphany about Taylor theorem, true?

In summary, the conversation discusses the remainder in integral form of a Taylor series expansion and a method for finding the remainder by integrating by parts multiple times. The claim is that this method will cancel out all terms except for the last one, resulting in only f(x) remaining. The conversation confirms that this is true and provides the correct form of integration by parts to use for this method.
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Reverberant
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Hello,

I'm taking my first calculus course right now, and something struck me regarding the remainder in integral form of a Taylor series expansion:

Let's say we have a Taylor expansion of the (n-1):th order, which has a remainder of the form

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Now, my claim is that if we integrate by parts n-1 times (I think), then every term of the integrated remainder, except for the last one, will cancel out a term of the Taylor polynomial; leaving only f(x). Thus, all we have left is the equation f(x)=f(x).

Is this true, and if so, can you confirm that the form of integration by parts to be used is
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and not
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?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Reverberant said:
Hello,

I'm taking my first calculus course right now, and something struck me regarding the remainder in integral form of a Taylor series expansion:

Let's say we have a Taylor expansion of the (n-1):th order, which has a remainder of the form

238fexl.png


Now, my claim is that if we integrate by parts n-1 times (I think), then every term of the integrated remainder, except for the last one, will cancel out a term of the Taylor polynomial; leaving only f(x). Thus, all we have left is the equation f(x)=f(x).

Is this true, and ...

Thanks in advance!
Just do it.

[tex]\displaystyle \text{We use the notation, } f^{(n)}(t)={{d^n}\over{dt^n}}f(t)\,.[/tex]

[tex]\displaystyle \text{Let } u= (x-t)^{n-1}\ \to \ {{d}\over{dt}}u=-(n-1)(x-t)^{n-2}\,.\ \ \text{Let } dv=f^{(n)}(t)}\, dt\ \to \ v=f^{(n-1)}(t)(n-1)(x-t)^{n-2}\,.[/tex]

[tex]\displaystyle {{1}\over{n!}}\int_a^x{n(x-t)^{n-1}\,f^{(n)}(t)}\, dt[/tex] [tex]\displaystyle = {{1}\over{(n-1)!}}\left(\left[ (x-t)^{n-1}f^{(n-1)}(t)\right]_a^x - \int_a^x{-(n-1)(x-t)^{n-2}\,f^{(n-1)}(t)}\, dt \right)[/tex]


[tex]\displaystyle = {{0\cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)-(x-a)^{n-1}f^{(n-1)}(a)}\over{(n-1)!}}\,+\,{{1}\over{(n-1)!}}\left( \int_a^x{(n-1)(x-t)^{n-2}\,f^{(n-1)}(t)}\, dt \right)[/tex]

[tex]\displaystyle = \,-\,{{(x-a)^{n-1}f^{(n-1)}(a)}\over{(n-1)!}}\,+\,{{1}\over{(n-1)!}}\left( \int_a^x{(n-1)(x-t)^{n-2}\,f^{(n-1)}(t)}\, dt \right)[/tex]
This will subtract the (n-1)th order term of the Taylor expansion of f(x) and leave a Taylor expansion of the (n-2)th order plus the integral which is the remainder.

So, yes your claim is correct!
 
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Sweet, thanks!
 

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