Calculating Consistency of a Point Mass System w/ Dark Matter

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In summary, the gravitational force due to the visible mass can be explained by assuming that there is a halo of dark matter surrounding the galaxy. This halo has a mass that is equal to the weight of the visible matter in the galaxy.
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Suppose we have a point mass system that consists of ##m + n## particles. There are ##m## normal visible point masses and ##n## invisible "dark matter" point masses. The point masses interact gravitationally with a ##1/r## potential.

Now when someone observes the motion of the visible masses, he will notice that they are not consistent with Newton's laws of motion (of course, because the invisible masses perturb the trajectories of the visible masses).

The question is, can such an observer calculate how many dark matter point masses there must be in the observed system to make the system self-consistent, and what are their masses and trajectories? In what cases a unique solution exists to this problem?
 
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I probably didn't express this clearly enough... (English isn't my native language) I have seen that the observed rotational motion of galaxies is explained with a hypothesis that there is a "halo" of dark matter around all galaxies. How does one deduce the required density distribution of dark matter from the observed motion of visible matter? Here "visible matter" is something that interacts electromagnetically and not only gravitationally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter_halo
 
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hilbert2 said:
The question is, can such an observer calculate how many dark matter point masses there must be in the observed system to make the system self-consistent, and what are their masses and trajectories? In what cases a unique solution exists to this problem?

This technique has been used to show the existence of astronomical bodies that aren't directly visible - for example, we infer the existence of a dark companion when we observe a bright star making otherwise unexplained motions. It's harder in a more complex many-body problem, of course, but in principle it's still possible.

The solutions need not be unique in any practical sense, because two bodies of mass M close enough to one another and distant enough from the other objects will be observationally indistinguishable from one body of mass 2M and located at their center of mass.
 
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hilbert2 said:
I probably didn't express this clearly enough... (English isn't my native language) I have seen that the observed rotational motion of galaxies is explained with a hypothesis that there is a "halo" of dark matter around all galaxies. How does one deduce the required density distribution of dark matter from the observed motion of visible matter? Here "visible matter" is something that interacts electromagnetically and not only gravitationally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter_halo

That question is much easier to answer (The previous question is very interesting but not trivial at all).

It is very easy. Find out the force required to keep a star in circular motion around the center of the galaxy using F = mv2/r.

Compare that with the force produced by the gravitational force due to the visible mass.

Assume the difference between the two numbers is due to a spherically symmetric distribution of dark matter.

Compare that with the gravitational force produced by such a spherical mass distribution in order to figure its mass.

Voila!
 
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I find this question intriguing and challenging. The concept of dark matter, although still largely a mystery, has been proposed to explain discrepancies in the observed motions of galaxies and other celestial bodies. So, the idea of calculating the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter is certainly worth exploring.

To answer the question, it is important to first understand the nature of dark matter and its role in the gravitational interactions within the system. Dark matter is believed to make up a significant portion of the total mass in the universe and is thought to interact primarily through gravity. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the presence of dark matter will have an impact on the trajectories of visible point masses.

In order to calculate the consistency of the system, the observer would need to take into account the gravitational interactions between all the point masses, both visible and invisible. This would involve solving a complex system of equations that takes into account the masses and positions of all the point masses, as well as the gravitational potential between them.

In some cases, a unique solution may exist where the observer can determine the number, masses, and trajectories of the dark matter point masses needed to make the system self-consistent. This would depend on the specific configuration and dynamics of the system. However, in most cases, it is likely that multiple solutions may exist, making it difficult to determine a unique answer.

Furthermore, it is important to note that the presence of dark matter does not necessarily mean that the system is inconsistent with Newton's laws of motion. It could simply mean that there are additional gravitational forces at play that need to be accounted for. Therefore, it is crucial to carefully analyze the data and consider all possible explanations before concluding that dark matter is the only solution.

In conclusion, the question of calculating the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter is a complex and challenging one. While a unique solution may exist in some cases, it is important to carefully consider all possibilities and not jump to conclusions without thorough analysis and evidence. As scientists, it is our duty to continue studying and exploring the mysteries of dark matter and its role in the universe.
 

1. What is the purpose of calculating the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter?

The purpose of calculating the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter is to determine the validity and accuracy of the current model of the system. This calculation can help scientists better understand the dynamics and behavior of the system and make any necessary adjustments to the model.

2. How is the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter calculated?

The consistency of a point mass system with dark matter is typically calculated using mathematical equations and simulations that take into account the properties and interactions of dark matter particles with the rest of the system. These calculations can also involve data from observations and experiments.

3. What factors influence the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter?

Several factors can influence the consistency of a point mass system with dark matter, including the mass and distribution of dark matter particles, the gravitational pull of the system's central mass, and the dynamics and interactions of the system's components.

4. How do scientists determine the accuracy of the calculated consistency?

Scientists typically compare the results of their calculations to observed data and experiments to determine the accuracy of the calculated consistency. They also use statistical methods and modeling techniques to analyze the consistency and make any necessary adjustments.

5. What are the potential implications of a consistent or inconsistent point mass system with dark matter?

A consistent point mass system with dark matter can help support the current understanding of the behavior of the system and contribute to further research and advancements in the field. On the other hand, an inconsistent point mass system with dark matter can indicate flaws in the current model and may require further investigation and modifications to improve its accuracy.

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