How to determin the momentum eA of electromagnetic field?

In summary: Ultimately, the choice of R as the reference point is simply a matter of convenience and practicality. In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the momentum per unit length of a periodic structure composed of infinite metal wires with current flowing through them. The momentum is affected by the electric current, which is dependent on the distance from the wire. The choice of reference point for the vector potential is arbitrary, but choosing R as the reference point allows for a more accurate calculation of the wire's momentum.
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I got a question when I was reading a paper, it describe a periodic structure composed of many infinite metal wire, and then try to calculate the momentum per unit length of the wire like these when there is current through wire:


electrons in a magnetic field have an additional contribution to theri momentum of eA,where e is charge value and A is vector potential of magnetic field B, and therefore the momentum per unit length of the wire is.
[tex]e\pir^2nA(r)=\frac{\mu_0 e^2(\pi r^2n)^2}{2\pi}ln(a/r)[/tex]

because
[tex]H(R)=\frac{I}{2\pi R}=\frac{\pi r^2nve}{2\pi R}[/tex]
where I is the current flowing in the wire, R is the distance from the wire and v is the mean electron velocity. we can express this field as
[tex]\vec{H(R)}={\mu_o}^{-1}\nabla\times\vec{A}[/tex]
where A(R)=\frac{\mu_0\pi r^2nve}{2\pi}ln(a/R)[/tex]
and a is the lattice constant as listed in the picture.

I know that from classical mechanics we could write momentum of a particle in EM field as P=mv+eA, and here when talking about the momentum of wire, we ignore "mv" because it is from electrons in the wire.but we should calculate moment of the EM field.

but when calculate A in classical electro-magnetic theory, we use
[tex]A_z=\frac{\mu I}{4\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\frac{dz}{\sqrt{z^2+a^2}}
and if we want to get the result like
A(R)=\frac{\mu_0\pi r^2nve}{2\pi}ln(a/R)[/tex]
we should choose a point as zero vector potential, here we should choose it as R.
but since A is arbitrary if we another point, so my question is that here why we choose R to get the momentum of wire.

thanks for your patience.
 

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It makes sense that you would be confused about why we choose R as a reference point for the vector potential. The reason for this is because the momentum of the wire is dependent on the electric current running through it, which is affected by the distance from the wire (R). By choosing this point as our reference, we can calculate the momentum of the wire more accurately. Additionally, it is important to note that the vector potential is arbitrary, so you can choose any reference point that you feel is most appropriate.
 
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Hello,

Thank you for your question. Determining the momentum of an electromagnetic field is a complex task that requires a thorough understanding of classical electromagnetism and quantum mechanics.

To begin, it is important to note that the momentum of an electromagnetic field is not a well-defined concept in classical electromagnetism. In classical mechanics, momentum is defined as the product of mass and velocity, but electromagnetic fields do not have mass. Therefore, the concept of momentum for an electromagnetic field is more accurately described as the momentum density, which is the momentum per unit volume of the field.

In terms of the specific scenario described in the paper you were reading, the momentum per unit length of the wire can be calculated by considering the momentum contribution from the electrons in the wire and the momentum contribution from the electromagnetic field. The momentum contribution from the electrons is given by eA, where e is the charge value and A is the vector potential of the magnetic field B. This is a well-known result in classical electromagnetism.

The momentum contribution from the electromagnetic field is more complicated to calculate. It involves considering the Lorentz force on the electrons in the wire, as well as the energy and momentum of the electromagnetic field itself. The equation provided in the paper, which is derived from classical electromagnetism, takes into account the current flowing through the wire, the distance from the wire, and the mean electron velocity.

In terms of your question about the choice of R as the reference point for the vector potential, this is simply a mathematical convenience. The vector potential is an arbitrary quantity and can be chosen at any point. In this case, choosing R as the reference point simplifies the calculation and allows for a clear interpretation of the result in terms of the momentum density of the electromagnetic field.

I hope this helps to clarify the concept of momentum for an electromagnetic field. It is a complex topic and requires a deep understanding of both classical and quantum mechanics. I encourage you to continue exploring this topic and seeking out additional resources for a more comprehensive understanding.
 

1. What is momentum eA of electromagnetic field?

Momentum eA of electromagnetic field is a measure of the motion or inertia of an electromagnetic field. It is also known as the energy flux density or Poynting vector, and it represents the rate at which energy is transported by an electromagnetic field.

2. How is the momentum eA of electromagnetic field calculated?

The momentum eA of electromagnetic field can be calculated using the formula p = μ0E x H, where μ0 is the permeability of free space, E is the electric field, and H is the magnetic field. Alternatively, it can also be calculated using the Poynting vector, which is given by S = E x H.

3. What is the significance of determining the momentum eA of electromagnetic field?

Determining the momentum eA of electromagnetic field is important in understanding the behavior and effects of electromagnetic fields. It can also help in the design and optimization of technologies that use electromagnetic fields, such as antennas and electric motors.

4. What factors can affect the momentum eA of electromagnetic field?

The momentum eA of electromagnetic field can be affected by various factors, including the intensity and direction of the electric and magnetic fields, the properties of the medium through which the electromagnetic field is passing, and the distance from the source of the electromagnetic field.

5. How is the momentum eA of electromagnetic field related to the speed and wavelength of light?

The momentum eA of electromagnetic field is directly proportional to the speed of light, as well as the wavelength of the electromagnetic waves. This means that as the speed or wavelength increases, the momentum eA of electromagnetic field also increases. This relationship is described by the equation p = h/λ, where h is Planck's constant and λ is the wavelength.

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