Two-Body Problem: Homework Statement, Equations & Attempted Solution

  • Thread starter unscientific
  • Start date
In summary, the discussion revolves around a problem where the explosion of a star results in a spherically symmetric loss of mass. The participants discuss the possible changes in momentum and energy after the explosion, and whether the binary star system remains bound or becomes unbound. The concept of effective potential is also mentioned. Ultimately, it is suggested to clarify the meaning of "spherically symmetric loss of mass" with the teacher.
  • #1
unscientific
1,734
13

Homework Statement



2d78rkn.png


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


What puzzles me is part (c), I got Vmin > Etot which suggests that the orbit is no longer bounded..
2n7l9w.png

35dazxf.png
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
So at some point the two new stars are inside an expanding shell of gas (etc) from the explosion so we only need to deal with the final fields of the two stars?

The second star (the one that did not blow up) may gain mass but does not change momentum from material that hits it?

What is wrong with the final system being unbound?
 
  • #3
Simon Bridge said:
So at some point the two new stars are inside an expanding shell of gas (etc) from the explosion so we only need to deal with the final fields of the two stars?

The second star (the one that did not blow up) may gain mass but does not change momentum from material that hits it?

What is wrong with the final system being unbound?

The question gives no information about whether the explosion affects angular momentum/energy or not...I'm assuming angular momentum and energy stays constant.

In part (c) of the question I'm asked to show that the binary star remains bound...
 
  • #4
Think: What does it mean that the exploding star "suffers a spherically symmetric loss of mass"? Does its momentum change in the explosion?
Just after the explosion, the the stars are still at the same place they were- The momentum of the smaller one is unchanged, what about the momentum of the bigger one? Did that symmetric mass loss change its momentum?

Calculate the energy of the two starts after the explosion, taking into account the change of volume. ehild
 
  • #5
ehild said:
Think: What does it mean that the exploding star "suffers a spherically symmetric loss of mass"? Does its momentum change in the explosion?
Just after the explosion, the the stars are still at the same place they were- The momentum of the smaller one is unchanged, what about the momentum of the bigger one? Did that symmetric mass loss change its momentum?

Calculate the energy of the two starts after the explosion, taking into account the change of volume. ehild

i would assume that the mass just halved instantaneously, but still retains its original speed? Not sure what volume has to do here
 
  • #6
unscientific said:
i would assume that the mass just halved instantaneously, but still retains its original speed? Not sure what volume has to do here

What else can can you assume if the explosion is spherically symmetric?
Just after the explosion, you have the half star and a spherical shell around it. The CM of the shell coincides with the centre of the star, and travels with the initial velocity of the star, while the shell itself can expand with a high speed. You are left with two stars at distance r0 from each other, having the same velocities v1 and v2 as before the explosion. The new CM of the two-star system travels in opposite direction as the shell, but that does not influence if the starts stay bounded to each other or not.

The energy of this binary star system is 1/2 m0(v12+v22)-Gm02/r0. Substitute v1 and v2 from the solution of the original system.

ehild
 
  • #7
ehild said:
What else can can you assume if the explosion is spherically symmetric?
Just after the explosion, you have the half star and a spherical shell around it. The CM of the shell coincides with the centre of the star, and travels with the initial velocity of the star, while the shell itself can expand with a high speed. You are left with two stars at distance r0 from each other, having the same velocities v1 and v2 as before the explosion. The new CM of the two-star system travels in opposite direction as the shell, but that does not influence if the starts stay bounded to each other or not.

The energy of this binary star system is 1/2 m0(v12+v22)-Gm02/r0. Substitute v1 and v2 from the solution of the original system.

ehild

Yes, but the problem is the total energy comes out as less than the effective potential, implying a non-bound state..
 
  • #8
I do not know what you call effective potential. If you think that the angular momentum of the new two-star system with respect to the original CM is the same as the initial angular momentum, you need to prove it.

I suggest to ask your teacher what is the meaning of "spherically symmetric loss of mass"

ehild
 
  • #9
I see now that you added the angular term of KE to the potential energy, and called the sum "effective potential". Stay with the definition of KE as the sum of 1/2 mv2 of both stars, using their velocities with respect to the new centre of mass.

ehild
 
  • #10
ehild said:
I see now that you added the angular term of KE to the potential energy, and called the sum "effective potential". Stay with the definition of KE as the sum of 1/2 mv2 of both stars, using their velocities with respect to the new centre of mass.

ehild

I used the wrong angular momentum; i used the angular momentum before the collision and put it in the new energy equation..
 

1. What is the Two-Body Problem?

The Two-Body Problem is a fundamental concept in physics and astronomy that involves finding the motion of two objects, typically celestial bodies, that are gravitationally interacting with each other. It is a special case of the more general N-Body Problem and is often used to model the orbits of planets, moons, and other objects in space.

2. What is the homework statement for the Two-Body Problem?

The homework statement for the Two-Body Problem typically involves finding the equations of motion, positions, velocities, and accelerations of two objects in space that are gravitationally interacting with each other. It may also involve solving for the orbital elements, energy, and angular momentum of the system.

3. What are the main equations used to solve the Two-Body Problem?

The main equations used to solve the Two-Body Problem are Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation and Newton's Second Law of Motion. These equations, along with the equations of motion, can be used to derive the Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion and solve for the motion of the two objects in the system.

4. Can you provide an example of a solved Two-Body Problem?

One example of a solved Two-Body Problem is the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. By using the equations and principles mentioned above, scientists are able to accurately predict the motion of the Earth around the Sun, including its orbital period, eccentricity, and distance from the Sun at any given time.

5. What are some common issues encountered when attempting to solve the Two-Body Problem?

Some common issues encountered when attempting to solve the Two-Body Problem include non-circular or non-elliptical orbits, perturbations from other celestial bodies, and the effect of relativity on the motion of the objects. These factors can make the problem more complex and require additional equations or approximations to accurately solve it.

Similar threads

  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
850
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
942
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
2K
Back
Top