Producing High Frequency Waves in Labs - YoctoHertz Limitations

In summary, the conversation discusses the highest frequency waves that can be produced in a laboratory setting. It questions the limiting factors in designing devices capable of reaching extremely high frequencies, and how these frequencies are generated. The conversation also explores the concept of a fundamental limitation on frequency and the role of energy in determining frequency. The idea of using matter-antimatter reactions to produce high energy photons is brought up, as well as the limitations of collider powers compared to nature's ability to produce high energy cosmic rays. Finally, the concept of Compton scattering as a means to produce high energy photons is mentioned.
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Ok topic was rather unscientific i know, but yes, i want to know, what are the highest frequency waves that are laboratory producable? also, what are the limiting factors in designing devices capable of reaching upwards of the YoctoHertz range for example. how are the frequencies generated in the first place?

also let's just be hypothetical here, no need to come crashing down on me with a "it can't be done because of XXX limitation in currently known technology". let's just assume that we have access to an infinite selection of materials, capable of performing any required task, what are the variables which must be manipulated to achieve higher and higher level frequencies?
 
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In currently accepted physics, there's no known higher limit on frequency, but there are reasons to believe that there might be a fundamental limitation around something of the order of 1/Plancktime. This would correspond to something like 10^44 Hz.

The thing that determines frequency is essentially the energy of individual entities: for electromagnetic radiation, that's the energy of a photon.
 
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the problem is not as much generating the frequency, its measuring it
you don't know what you have unless you can quantify it

dr
 
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I don't know if you realize but you are talking about gamma rays. The photon energy of hard gamma rays is very high. To get enough energy into one photon you have to use matter antimatter reactions. And those also produce other field excitations, not just the gamma rays. We are limited by our colider powers, nature isn't, and regularly showers the Earth with cosmic rays that are much stronger than anything we can produce on earth.
 
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0xDEADBEEF said:
I don't know if you realize but you are talking about gamma rays. The photon energy of hard gamma rays is very high. To get enough energy into one photon you have to use matter antimatter reactions. And those also produce other field excitations, not just the gamma rays. We are limited by our colider powers, nature isn't, and regularly showers the Earth with cosmic rays that are much stronger than anything we can produce on earth.
Did you ever hear of Compton scattering of laser light off of high energy electrons? If you shoot 2-eV photons at a 20 GeV electron (gamma = 40,000), you get a scattered photon coming back with an energy of about gamma-squared times 2 eV = 3 GeV. Nice way to produce high energy photons. No antimatter required.
Bob S
 

What are high frequency waves and why are they important in labs?

High frequency waves refer to electromagnetic waves that have a high frequency, or number of cycles per second. In labs, they are important because they allow scientists to study and manipulate smaller particles and phenomena, such as atoms and molecules.

What is the YoctoHertz limitation when producing high frequency waves in labs?

The YoctoHertz limitation refers to the smallest unit of measurement for frequency, which is 10^-24 Hertz. This means that it is currently not possible to produce or measure waves with frequencies below this limit in labs.

What methods are commonly used to produce high frequency waves in labs?

Some common methods for producing high frequency waves in labs include using lasers, masers, and particle accelerators. These techniques can generate waves with frequencies in the terahertz (10^12 Hz) and petahertz (10^15 Hz) ranges.

Are there any limitations in producing high frequency waves in labs?

Yes, there are several limitations to producing high frequency waves in labs. These include technological limitations, such as the YoctoHertz limit, as well as practical limitations such as cost and the availability of specialized equipment.

What are some potential applications of high frequency waves in labs?

High frequency waves have a wide range of potential applications in labs, including studying and manipulating microscopic particles, medical imaging, telecommunications, and quantum computing. They also have potential uses in fields such as materials science, chemistry, and biology.

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