Fifith Postulate in Affine Spaces

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of parallelism in affine spaces and clarifies that parallelism applies to affine subspaces, not the entire affine space. It also highlights the mistake in stating that every affine space obeys Euclid's Fifth Postulate.
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If possible, could anyone criticize the following sequence of sentences ?
1) Two n-dimensional affine subspaces are parallel iff they have the
same associated linear space.
2) Two different (non-equal) parallel affine subspaces are disjoint sets.
3) If two n-dimensional affine subspaces ( 'A' and 'B' ) are parallel to a third n-dimensional subspace then they are parallel to each other. (A || B )
4) Euclid's Fifth Postulate: Based on item 3), if two n-dimensional subspaces ( 'A' and 'B' ) parallel to a third n-dimensional subspace have a point in common, then they are equal (A = B).
5) Based on item 4), every affine space obeys the parallel postulate. :confused:

My question is : What item is wrong ?
thanx in advance
 
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.Item 5 is incorrect. Euclid's Fifth Postulate states that, if two lines are parallel to a third line, then they must remain parallel to each other and never meet. This does not mean that "every affine space obeys the parallel postulate". In fact, affine spaces are not necessarily subject to Euclid's Fifth Postulate, as it only states something about lines.
 
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The Fifth Postulate in affine spaces states that two n-dimensional affine subspaces are parallel if and only if they have the same associated linear space. This means that the direction of the subspaces is the same, but they may have different translations or offsets. This postulate is often used in geometry and has been criticized for not being intuitive or easily understood.

One possible criticism of this sequence of sentences is that they do not clearly define what is meant by "parallel" in an affine space. While it is stated that parallel subspaces have the same associated linear space, it is not explicitly defined how this is determined. Additionally, the statement that two different (non-equal) parallel subspaces are disjoint sets may be misleading, as it suggests that parallel subspaces cannot intersect at all, which is not necessarily true.

Another potential issue is with the use of the term "equal" in relation to parallel subspaces. In affine spaces, two subspaces can be considered equal if they have the same direction and the same translation or offset. However, this is not the same as being equal in the traditional sense of mathematics. This may lead to confusion or misinterpretation of the postulate.

Furthermore, the use of Euclid's Fifth Postulate in this context may be seen as problematic. While it may be applicable to certain geometric situations, it is not a universally accepted postulate in the study of affine spaces. There may be other postulates or axioms that could also be used to describe the relationship between parallel subspaces.

In conclusion, while the Fifth Postulate in affine spaces may be a useful tool in certain situations, it is not without its limitations and potential criticisms. It is important to carefully define and clarify the terms used in the postulate to avoid confusion and potential misunderstandings.
 

1. What is the Fifth Postulate in Affine Spaces?

The Fifth Postulate in Affine Spaces, also known as the Parallel Postulate, states that if a line is parallel to one side of a triangle, then it is parallel to the other two sides as well.

2. Why is the Fifth Postulate important in Affine Spaces?

The Fifth Postulate is important because it helps define the concept of parallel lines in affine spaces. This postulate allows us to make comparisons and measurements in affine spaces, which are essential in many scientific fields such as geometry, physics, and engineering.

3. How is the Fifth Postulate different from the Fifth Postulate in Euclidean Geometry?

The Fifth Postulate in Euclidean Geometry states that if a line is parallel to one side of a triangle, then it does not intersect the other two sides. In affine spaces, the Fifth Postulate states that the parallel line intersects the other two sides at the same distance from the vertices of the triangle. This subtle difference allows for a broader definition of parallel lines in affine spaces.

4. Can the Fifth Postulate be proven?

No, the Fifth Postulate cannot be proven. It is a postulate, which means it is an assumed truth that serves as the foundation for a mathematical system. However, many attempts have been made to prove the Fifth Postulate, leading to the development of non-Euclidean geometries.

5. How does the Fifth Postulate relate to other postulates in Affine Spaces?

The Fifth Postulate is one of the five postulates that define affine spaces. The other four postulates include the Existence Postulate (there exists at least one line), the Uniqueness Postulate (there is only one line through two distinct points), the Joining Postulate (any two distinct points can be joined by a line), and the Continuity Postulate (a line can be extended infinitely in both directions). Together, these postulates form the basis for affine geometry.

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