A year of liberal arts before Physics BS?

In summary, the conversation discusses the speaker's decision to study higher mathematics and physics, despite initially wanting to be a writer. Due to their country's educational system, they were never able to dedicate enough time to studying literature and the arts. They express a desire for a change in environment and mention a potential opportunity to study at a liberal arts college in Germany. The conversation also touches on the high cost of tuition for out-of-state applicants and the speaker's interest in diverse fields making them a strong applicant for graduate school. They also mention their lack of interest in studying in India and their preference for studying on their own if not admitted to the German school. The conversation ends with a reference to Mike Judge, who has a degree in physics but has
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Mépris
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After many months of struggling, I've decided that I would like to study higher Mathematics/Physics. However, I initially wanted to be a writer (fiction) and have a strong interest in literature, and the arts, in general. In fact, I will probably always keep on writing as long as time permits. Due to the way in which my country's educational system is designed, I was never able to dedicate enough time to studying literature/classics/etc.

I also feel like a drastic change in my environment would do me a lot of good. I feel somewhat suffocated here and maybe going away for a while would be nice. I know where I can do a 3-year BS program, where I will only be doing the subject specified - there's a few universities I think I have a shot at getting in.

I have a found a liberal arts college in Germany, which seems to fit my exact needs. Frankly, I was not certain how I would do this and stumbling upon this school was a very pleasant surprise. Admissions are need blind and they offer need-based financial aid. They have a one-year program and a four-year BA. I'm not very interested in the four-year BA as I would like to go to grad school in math/physics.

Here is a http://www.ecla.de/academics/academy-year/ to the school. What do you think of this plan? Would it be crazy to even consider this? The way I see it, here's how it's going to work:

One year of arts ---> 3 years of math/physics either here, or at CMI ---> grad school

I also would be able to afford it, assuming that I can get into this ECLA school.
 
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sounds awesome, but why can't you do a normal 4 year degree and take extra writing classes each semester, and possibly do an extra semester or summer?
 
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Highway said:
sounds awesome, but why can't you do a normal 4 year degree and take extra writing classes each semester, and possibly do an extra semester or summer?

Tuition fees for out-of-state applicants are preposterous and I'm not a US-resident/citizen, which means I'm not eligible for FAFSA. I still wouldn't be able to afford the 2+2 route, with the initial 2 years being spent at a community college. If I work harder at my math, I can get a very good degree in India for a fraction of the cost ($2-3k) and still go to graduate school in Europe or the USA.

Well, thank you. I can't remember the last time I felt this excited about something!
 
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i guess what I am saying is, why can't you stay at your home school or whatever and study? or are you saying that the literature / writing portion of what you want to study needs to take place outside of your home country?
 
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Highway said:
i guess what I am saying is, why can't you stay at your home school or whatever and study? or are you saying that the literature / writing portion of what you want to study needs to take place outside of your home country?

your interest in writing, and presumably strong skills, in two very different fields, will make you a very diverse applicant for graduate school in the US/EU. . . so if you are able to take those classes at IIT or something, there is no need to spend all of that money to study in germany or whatever, unless those programs arent offered to you at home.
 
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Highway said:
i guess what I am saying is, why can't you stay at your home school or whatever and study? or are you saying that the literature / writing portion of what you want to study needs to take place outside of your home country?

If you start the Physics program, you study Physics and only physics. There are no general education requirements.

The arts/literature department is horrible. Most of teachers in high school studied there or in India, and to be honest, I'm not certain how they managed to get their teaching post, let alone, their degree...
Very few literature/language teachers were actually decent. I had one who had printed pages of SparkNotes stuck between the pages of her book and she pretended it was her own work. University here, especially if I study a humanities subject, is going to be high school all over again. :(

If I am not admitted to the German school, I would rather stay home and study literature on my own than go there. :O

Highway said:
your interest in writing, and presumably strong skills, in two very different fields, will make you a very diverse applicant for graduate school in the US/EU. . . so if you are able to take those classes at IIT or something, there is no need to spend all of that money to study in germany or whatever, unless those programs arent offered to you at home.

Haha, I'm not from India and I'm not very good at Chemistry either. I don't know if you've seen an IIT exam but it's insane. These kids put many hours into cramming for this test and I am not willing to subject myself to such rubbish. But I do appreciate your input and that's why I made this thread. I would like to know what you folks here think about this. There's probably a few things I haven't considered and if there is a huge hole in this plan, maybe I should reconsider.
 
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where are you from? I am completely lost. . .
 
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Mepris, just in case you are wondering Mike Judge graduated with a degree in physics and he has made some great productions including movies like Office Space and Extract and series including Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Judge

Again this illustrates the unnecessary need to get formal qualifications in literature/writing and it might give you ideas about how to pursue this route by learning what he did. I'm sure you'll get an idea or two.
 
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chiro said:
Mepris, just in case you are wondering Mike Judge graduated with a degree in physics and he has made some great productions including movies like Office Space and Extract and series including Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Judge

Again this illustrates the unnecessary need to get formal qualifications in literature/writing and it might give you ideas about how to pursue this route by learning what he did. I'm sure you'll get an idea or two.

Cheers for that. I'll look into what he did.

It's good you mentioned "formal qualifications". I don't necessarily need a diploma or degree. It just so happens that I found a place that could get me that *and* what looks like a small, yet, great group of people with whom I can discuss literature and philosophy, which is something I don't know where else I could find. If anyone's got any ideas...?
 
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Mépris said:
Due to the way in which my country's educational system is designed, I was never able to dedicate enough time to studying literature/classics/etc.

You don't have to learn everything in class. If you want to study literature, then buy books and read them.

Also knowing a lot about literature is a completely different set of skills than being a good writer.
 

1. What is a liberal arts education?

A liberal arts education is a comprehensive and well-rounded academic program that focuses on developing critical thinking, communication, and problem-solving skills. It typically includes courses in humanities, social sciences, natural sciences, and the arts.

2. Why should I pursue a year of liberal arts before a Physics BS?

A year of liberal arts before a Physics BS can provide you with a strong foundation in critical thinking, communication, and problem-solving skills. These skills are essential for success in any field, including physics. Additionally, a liberal arts education can expose you to a wide range of subjects and perspectives, helping you to become a well-rounded and versatile physicist.

3. Will a year of liberal arts delay my graduation?

It depends on the specific program and school you attend. Some institutions offer a combined liberal arts and physics program that allows students to graduate in four years. If your school does not offer this option, it is possible that a year of liberal arts may delay your graduation by a semester or a year. However, the skills and knowledge gained from a liberal arts education can ultimately benefit your academic and professional pursuits in the long run.

4. How will a year of liberal arts impact my career prospects as a physicist?

A year of liberal arts can enhance your career prospects as a physicist in several ways. It can provide you with a diverse set of skills and knowledge that are highly valued by employers. It can also help you to think critically and creatively, which are essential skills for problem-solving in the field of physics. Furthermore, a liberal arts education can broaden your perspective and make you a more well-rounded and adaptable professional.

5. Can I switch majors after completing a year of liberal arts?

Yes, it is possible to switch majors after completing a year of liberal arts. However, this decision should be carefully considered and discussed with an academic advisor. It may require additional coursework and could potentially delay your graduation. It is important to carefully weigh the pros and cons of switching majors before making a decision.

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