Calculating Distance in Two Different Methods

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In summary: It's good to know both.Also the inverse of the stellar parallax (in seconds of arc - the required units for p in the formula) gives the distance to it in parsecs.I think you meant to reverse the order of p and d in your last equation.In summary, we can use the equation M = m + 5 - 5logd to calculate the distance of Sirius from us in lightyears using the given data. When the positions of the Sun and Sirius are switched, their absolute magnitudes will stay the same but their apparent magnitudes will change. To find the new apparent magnitudes, we must first calculate the parallax for each star and then convert to lightyears. The inverse of the stellar par
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Homework Statement


Show that we can calculate the distance of Sirius from us (in Ly) from the above data by two different methods.

If the positions of the Sun and Sirius are interchanged, what will be the m and M values of each?

Sun: m = -26.4; M = +4.6
Sirius: m = -1.4; M = +1.4



Homework Equations


M = m + 5 - 5logd
I = L/4pi d^2
I₁/I₂ = L₁/L₂
(d₂/d₁)^2



The Attempt at a Solution


M = m + 5logd
1.4 = -1.4 + 5 - 5logd
1.4 + 1.4 = 5 - 5logd
2.8 = 5 - 5logd
2.8 - 5 = -5logd
-2.2 = -5logd
-2.2/-5 = logd
.44 = logd

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! :biggrin:
 
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The absolute magnitudes will stay the same. They are per definition the apparent magnitudes when the object is located at 10 parsecs. Use the formula to calculate the parallaxes for the sun and Sirius and then recalculate their apparent magnitudes when their positions are swopped.

Also the inverse of the stellar parallax (in seconds of arc - the required units for p in the formula) gives the distance to it in parsecs.
 
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Remember your laws of logs. [tex] a\log(b) = \log(b^a)[/tex]. Also the equation you are using will give the distance in parsecs so you will have to convert to lightyears.

For the second, what do you know about magnitudes and brightness?

Edit: Beaten to it I knew I shouldn't have made that coffee :wink:
 
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What is somewhat confusing is that one sometimes sees the equation

[tex]M = m + 5 + 5\ \log(p)[/tex]

and at another time

[tex]M = m + 5- 5\ \log(d)[/tex]

this is due to the fact that the stellar parallax of a star and the distance to it in parsecs are related by

[tex]p = \frac{1}{d}[/tex]

I was referring to the first in my previous post while you seem to know the second.
 
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