Why does air rush in from colder to hotter space and not vice versa?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the phenomenon of cold air rushing into a warm room when a window is opened. There is confusion as to why this occurs, as the higher kinetic energy of the hot air inside should theoretically create more pressure and push air out. However, it is explained that the cold air is more dense and therefore unstable, causing it to flow into the room when the window is opened. The presence of wind or other pressure differences can also affect this process.
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When you open a window of a warm room, the air from the colder outside rushes in (you can see the curtains bend into the room, for example).

But shouldn't it be the opposite? The higher kinetic energy of the hotter air molecules inside the room should create more pressure than the colder air molecules outside, and so when a window is open the air should move from higher pressure to lower pressure, i.e. from inside to outside.

And if the explanation is that the hot air does indeed move to the outside, and the cold air rushes into fill the created vacuum, why do we feel only the cold air coming in and why is the net force pushing in the inside the room direction?
 
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hi there james
welcome to PF

how is the room being cooled ? ducted A/Con?
if so then it will be pumping air into the rooms and producing a higher pressure inside the building/room than the pressure outside.
the temperature difference is pretty much irrelevent

Dave
 
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jamesb100 said:
When you open a window of a warm room, the air from the colder outside rushes in (you can see the curtains bend into the room, for example).
Isn't the wind the dominant factor here?
 
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See my diagram. I believe this is an illusion due to the fact that the curtain is fixed at the top.

When the window is opened the cold air outside will descend between the curtain and wall/window pushing the curtain into the room slightly. The hot air inside at ceiling level would flow over the top of the curtain and out of the window.

The top of the curtain is fixed, where as the bottom is free to move.
 

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PS: If the room is otherwise sealed the hot and cold flow rates must be the same or the pressure in the room would change.
 
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Duh...

I just realized I totally misread the question
Wish the edit feature lasted a little longer :(

Dave
 
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i think the only reason the cold air comes in when you open a window is because of the pressure from the wind. if there was absolutely no wind then gravity would take over and the warm air in the room would escape at the top of the window (due to convection) and the cold outside air would be sucked in at the bottom of the window, until the temperatures equalized..
 
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The cold air would come in even without wind. It more dense than the warm air so there would be a vertical stratification between the two densities, which would be unstable. The slightest perturbation (for example, from opening the window) would cause the situation to break down and the cold air would flow into the room from the bottom portion of the window while warmer air would then get pushed out the top assuming only one window was open, much like CWatters drew. The presence of wind or any sort of over- or under-pressure in the house would complicate matters a bit, but the overall idea is the same.
 

1. Why does air always flow from colder to hotter space?

Air molecules are constantly in motion due to their kinetic energy. In colder spaces, the air molecules have less kinetic energy and therefore move more slowly. In hotter spaces, the air molecules have more kinetic energy and move faster. This difference in kinetic energy causes the air molecules to move from colder to hotter spaces, balancing out the temperature difference.

2. Can air flow from hotter to colder space?

Yes, it is possible for air to flow from hotter to colder space. However, this is not the natural direction of air flow. It can only occur when work is done to overcome the natural flow of air from colder to hotter spaces, such as with the use of fans or air conditioning systems.

3. How does this phenomenon apply to the Earth's atmosphere?

The Earth's atmosphere follows the same principle as air flow from colder to hotter spaces. The sun's energy heats up the Earth's surface, causing the air near the surface to warm up and rise. As it rises, it cools and descends again, creating a cycle of air flow from colder to hotter regions.

4. Why does this phenomenon occur only in gases and not in solids or liquids?

Gases, unlike solids and liquids, have a high level of molecular freedom. The molecules in a gas are not as tightly bound together, allowing them to move more freely. This makes it easier for air molecules to move from colder to hotter spaces, whereas in solids and liquids, the molecules are more densely packed and do not have the same amount of freedom to move.

5. Does this principle only apply to air or can it occur with other substances?

This principle, also known as the second law of thermodynamics, applies to all substances. It states that heat will naturally flow from hotter to colder regions until an equilibrium is reached. This can occur with other gases, liquids, and even solids, but the effect may not be as noticeable as it is with air due to differences in molecular properties.

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