What are Thermodynamic Coordinates and Why are Heat and Work Not Included?

In summary, the concept of thermodynamic coordinates refers to properties of a gas that can be expressed as functions of just two variables, such as pressure and volume or pressure and temperature. These properties include refractive index, viscosity, internal energy, entropy, enthalpy, the Helmholtz function, and the Gibbs function. Heat and work, on the other hand, are not considered thermodynamic coordinates as they represent energy in transit and not properties of the gas itself. It is more useful to plot state changes rather than the work done in a process.
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i don't really understand which quantities are thermodinamic coordinates and which are not. and what makes work and heat are not thermodinamic coordinates but temperature, volume, etc are thermodinamic coordinates?
 
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What do you mean by "thermodynamic coordinates"? If you mean those P-V, T-S, P-H diagrams and such then work and heat are as a result of the changes in pressure, temperature, enthalpy and so on.

So it makes more sense to plot state changes rather than the work done in the process.
 
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Take the simple example of a sample of gas with a fixed number of molecules. It need not be ideal. Its temperature, T, can be expressed as a function of just two variables, volume, V, and pressure, p. We can, it turns out, express all gas properties as functions of just two variables (such as p and V or p and T). These properties include refractive index, viscosity, internal energy, entropy, enthalpy, the Helmholtz function, the Gibbs function. We call these properties 'functions of state'. The state is determined by the values of just two variables.

Heat and work are not functions of state. They are not properties of the gas. They both represent energy in transit to or from the system, not energy residing in the system.
 

1) What is the definition of thermodynamics coordinate?

Thermodynamics coordinate refers to a set of parameters that describe the state of a thermodynamic system. These parameters can include temperature, pressure, volume, and composition.

2) How are thermodynamics coordinates used in thermodynamic calculations?

Thermodynamics coordinates are used to calculate the properties and behavior of a thermodynamic system. By manipulating these parameters, scientists can determine the changes in energy, entropy, and other properties of the system.

3) What is the role of thermodynamics coordinates in phase transitions?

Thermodynamics coordinates play a crucial role in phase transitions, as they determine the conditions under which a substance changes from one phase to another. For example, the temperature and pressure coordinates dictate whether a substance will exist as a solid, liquid, or gas.

4) How do thermodynamics coordinates relate to the laws of thermodynamics?

The laws of thermodynamics are based on the concept of thermodynamic coordinates. The first law states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed, which is reflected in the use of energy coordinates. The second law states that entropy always increases in a closed system, which is measured using entropy coordinates.

5) Can thermodynamics coordinates be used to predict the behavior of a system?

Yes, thermodynamics coordinates can be used to predict the behavior of a system, as long as the system is in a state of equilibrium. By manipulating the coordinates, scientists can determine the direction and magnitude of changes in the system, allowing for predictions about its behavior.

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