Energies of a particle in a box vs. free particle?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of reconciling quantum mechanics and special relativity, specifically in regards to the allowed energy states for a particle in a box. It is noted that the allowed energy levels are derived from non-relativistic quantum mechanics, and thus do not include relativistic terms. The suggestion is made to use relativistic quantum mechanics to better understand the problem, and it is explained that in classical mechanics, the relativistic energy includes a term for the particle's rest-mass energy.
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I think I'm trying to reconcile quantum mechanics and special relativity . . . or whatever I'm doing I'm pretty confused.

Ok, so the allowed energy states for a particle in a box are

[tex]E_n = \frac{\hbar^2 \pi^2}{2 m L^2} n^2 [/tex].

This seems to mean, as you increase the length L, the particle's energy will tend towards zero. When L becomes very large, the particle will be essentially free, and according to the above equation will have an energy of E~0.

But the minimum energy of a free particle should be its rest-mass energy, E = mc^2, not zero. Also, the ground state (n = 0) energy of a particle in a box is inversely proportional to mass, while the ground state energy of a free particle is directly proportional to its mass.

How do you reconcile these ideas from quantum mechanics and relativity?
 
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The allowed energy levels you have written are derived from the non-relativistic quantum mechanics formalism. Therefore, you won't find relativistic terms.
 
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Hmm, so is there a relatively simple way to think about the particle in a box including relativity?
 
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Try relativistic quantum mechanics; it's the way to go.
 
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The problem can already be understood classically; w/o taking into account a potential V(x) the relativistic energy is

[tex]E=\frac{mc^2}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}\simeq mc^2 + \frac{1}{2}v^2[/tex]

in non-rel. mechanics you forget about the mc² term; in non-rel. QM you quantize only the v² term
 
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tom.stoer said:
The problem can already be understood classically; w/o taking into account a potential V(x) the relativistic energy is

[tex]E=\frac{mc^2}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}\simeq mc^2 + \frac{1}{2}v^2[/tex]

in non-rel. mechanics you forget about the mc² term; in non-rel. QM you quantize only the v² term

Interesting... maybe one day I'll learn relativistic QM...
 

1. What is the difference between the energies of a particle in a box and a free particle?

The energies of a particle in a box and a free particle refer to the energy states or levels that a particle can occupy in a given system. In a particle in a box, the particle is confined to a finite space and can only have discrete energy levels, while a free particle can move freely in space and can have a continuous range of energy levels.

2. How do the energy levels of a particle in a box compare to those of a free particle?

The energy levels of a particle in a box are quantized, meaning they can only take on certain discrete values, while the energy levels of a free particle are continuous. This means that the energy levels of a free particle can take on any value within a certain range, while the energy levels of a particle in a box are limited to specific values.

3. What is the significance of the size of the box on the energies of a particle in a box?

The size of the box affects the energies of a particle in a box because it determines the allowed wavelengths and frequencies of the particle. A larger box allows for longer wavelengths and lower energies, while a smaller box restricts the wavelengths and leads to higher energies.

4. How do the energy levels of a particle in a box change as the size of the box is increased?

As the size of the box is increased, the energy levels of a particle in a box become more closely spaced. This means that the difference in energy between adjacent levels decreases, and the energy levels approach a continuous range. However, the energy levels will still remain discrete, as the particle is still confined to a finite space.

5. Can a particle in a box have the same energy level as a free particle?

No, a particle in a box and a free particle cannot have the same energy level. A free particle can have a continuous range of energies, while a particle in a box can only have discrete energy levels. Additionally, the energy levels of a particle in a box are determined by the size of the box, while the energy levels of a free particle are not affected by external factors.

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