Why does atmospheric pressure not keep liquids inside upside down cups?

In summary, the phenomenon of atmospheric pressure keeping water in a straw is not seen in upside down cups because the width of the opening affects the even distribution of pressure. This can be demonstrated through the use of a vortex bottle, where a small connecting hole is necessary for the vortex to form and the water to flow between bottles. The width of the opening and the capillary effects play a role in this phenomenon as well.
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If I hold the top end of a straw filled with water, the water stays in the straw which is due to the atmospheric pressure. How come this effect is not seen in upside down cups? Should the atmospheric pressure keep the liquid inside it within the cup since the other end is closed? Also, the radius of the cup is greater which means greater upward force.
 
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Welcome to PF;
You do see this effect in upside down cups - provided the mouth of the cup is below water level.
The key here is the width of the opening.

For the pressure difference to hold the water in the container, it needs to be exerted evenly over the whole surface.
A small variation, even for a moment, will make one side heavier, allowing a bubble of air to form and break the seal. You can see it if you use a glass jar - watch the opening as you lift it clear of the water.

Over a small surface, though, the variations do not usually build up so much.
You can break the symmetry by tilting the straw (if i's a wide one).
[If the straw is very narrow, then capillary effects can become important too.]

Your narrow straw is just restricting the number of things that can possibly go wrong ;)

The classic demonstration of the effect is in a vortex bottle -
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Vortex-in-a-Bottle/
... the connecting hole has to be small (how small? experiment!) to make it work.
If you just up-ended the bottles quickly, no vortex forms, and water does not flow from one bottle to the next.
 
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Ok so the uneven force of the atmospheric pressure due to a wide opening does not hold the liquid in tact. How does this have anything to do with the vortex bottle?
 
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Try the bottle and see - experiment with different sized holes (without swirling the water).
 
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The atmospheric pressure plays a key role in keeping the water inside the straw, but it is not the only factor at play. The surface tension of the water and the adhesive forces between the water and the straw also contribute to the water remaining in the straw.

In the case of an upside down cup, the atmospheric pressure is still present, but it is countered by the weight of the liquid inside the cup. As the radius of the cup increases, so does the weight of the liquid, creating a balance between the upward force of the atmospheric pressure and the downward force of gravity.

Additionally, the shape and material of the cup may also play a role. Cups with smooth, non-porous surfaces may have stronger adhesive forces with the liquid, preventing it from spilling out even when inverted.

In summary, while atmospheric pressure does play a role in keeping liquids inside containers, there are other factors at play such as surface tension, adhesive forces, and the weight of the liquid itself.
 

What is atmospheric pressure?

Atmospheric pressure is the force per unit area exerted by the weight of the Earth's atmosphere. It is caused by the gravitational attraction of the Earth on the air molecules in the atmosphere.

How is atmospheric pressure measured?

Atmospheric pressure is typically measured using a device called a barometer. The most common type is a mercury barometer, which measures the height of a column of mercury in a glass tube. The height of the mercury column is directly proportional to the atmospheric pressure.

What factors affect atmospheric pressure?

The main factors that affect atmospheric pressure are temperature, altitude, and the amount of water vapor in the air. As temperature increases, air molecules move faster and spread out, resulting in lower pressure. At higher altitudes, the air is less dense and therefore exerts less pressure. The amount of water vapor in the air also affects pressure, as water molecules are lighter than air molecules and can displace them.

Why is atmospheric pressure important?

Atmospheric pressure plays a crucial role in shaping weather patterns and climate. It also affects the behavior of gases and liquids, as well as the growth and survival of plants and animals. In addition, atmospheric pressure is important for aviation, as changes in pressure can affect the performance of aircraft.

How does atmospheric pressure affect the human body?

The human body is adapted to function under normal atmospheric pressure. Changes in pressure, such as during air travel or scuba diving, can cause discomfort and even health problems. When pressure decreases, such as at high altitudes, the body may experience altitude sickness. When pressure increases, as in diving underwater, it can cause nitrogen gas to dissolve in the blood and tissues, which can lead to decompression sickness.

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