What are the effects of higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach?

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Is this about the evolution of a physical system? In summary, the conversation discusses the slow motion approach, which uses the parameter epsilon to approximate the partial derivative of a smooth function. The conversation raises questions about the behavior of higher-order derivatives and the effects of the epsilon parameter on operations such as the Laplacian and gradient. The poster also asks about the implications of only considering effects up to first order in the epsilon parameter. It is unclear what specific problem or context this conversation is referring to.
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Hello i didn,t understand the slow motion approach of course i know that:

[tex] \frac{\partial f }{\partial x^{0}}\sim \epsilon \frac{\partial f }{\partial x^{a}} [/tex] according to this approach with epsilon<<<1 small parameter for every smooth function my doubts are.

a)what would happen to higher derivatives of f with respect to time and spatial coordinates?..x,y,z ?

b)If we only want effect upto first order in epsilon parameter then..what would happen to:

[tex] \nabla ^{2}f [/tex] (Laplacian)

[tex] (1,1,1)*Gra(f) [/tex] (scalar product involving the gradient)

or if we had [tex] \epsilon div(f) [/tex] would it mean that the only term that should be kept is df/dt if we consider effects only to first order?..

thanks.:redface: :redface: :redface:
 
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I've been trying to fill in the context of this post, with little success. Regarding what problem are you taking a "slow motion" approach? Are you doing low-velocity, weak-field approximations to GR?
 
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The slow-motion approach is a mathematical technique used to simplify the analysis of systems with small parameters. In this approach, the small parameter (represented by epsilon) is multiplied by derivatives of a function (represented by f) with respect to time and spatial coordinates.

To answer your questions, the effects of higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach depend on the specific system being analyzed. Generally, higher derivatives will have a smaller impact on the overall behavior of the system compared to lower derivatives. This is because the small parameter (epsilon) is multiplied by the derivative, making higher derivatives even smaller.

If we only want to consider effects up to first order in the epsilon parameter, then higher derivatives will have even less of an impact. In this case, the Laplacian (second derivative with respect to spatial coordinates) and scalar product involving the gradient (first derivative with respect to spatial coordinates) would be negligible compared to the first derivative with respect to time.

For example, if we had an equation with the term \epsilon \nabla^{2}f, and we are only considering effects up to first order, then we can neglect this term and only consider the term \epsilon \frac{\partial f }{\partial t}. This would simplify the analysis and make it easier to solve.

In summary, the effects of higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach are smaller compared to lower derivatives, and can be neglected if we are only considering effects up to a certain order. However, the specific impact of higher derivatives will depend on the system and the specific equations being analyzed.
 

What are the effects of higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach?

Higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach can have a significant impact on the behavior of a system. Here are the five most frequently asked questions about these effects.

1. What is the slow-motion approach?

The slow-motion approach is a mathematical technique used to analyze the behavior of a physical system over time. It involves taking derivatives of a system's equations of motion to better understand how the system will evolve.

2. What are derivatives?

Derivatives are mathematical quantities that describe the rate of change of a variable with respect to another variable. In the context of the slow-motion approach, derivatives are used to understand how a system will change over time.

3. How do higher derivatives affect the slow-motion approach?

Higher derivatives can have a significant impact on the predictions made by the slow-motion approach. They can reveal additional information about the system's behavior, such as the system's stability and its response to external forces.

4. What are the benefits of considering higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach?

Considering higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach can provide a more accurate and detailed understanding of a system's behavior. It can also help identify potential instabilities or unexpected behavior that may not be apparent when only lower-order derivatives are considered.

5. Are there any limitations to using higher derivatives in the slow-motion approach?

While higher derivatives can provide valuable insights, they also come with some limitations. The more derivatives that are taken, the more complex the equations become, making it more challenging to analyze and interpret the results. Additionally, higher derivatives may not always accurately reflect the behavior of a physical system, as they are based on simplified mathematical models.

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