How to tell if two oscillators are different

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In summary, the user is working on a project involving analyzing data on oscillators and is trying to determine how many different oscillators are present. They have successfully calculated the x_max, ω, and \phi values but are unsure how to determine if two oscillators are the same or different. They are asked to clarify this with their lecturer.
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Hi all, this is my first time on PF. As one of my projects, I had to create a program to analyze a bunch of data involving oscillators. I'm supposed to find out how many different oscillators there are within all the data. I have it pretty much done, except one part. I don't actually know how to tell if two oscillators are the same or different.

The equations I'm supposed to use are:
x(t) = x_max cos(ωt + [itex]\phi[/itex])
v(t) = -ω x_max sin(ωt + [itex]\phi[/itex])
a(t) = -ω^2 x_max cos(ωt + [itex]\phi[/itex])

I'm given t, x, v, and a. I have managed to calculate all x_max, ω and [itex]\phi[/itex] value.

Basically what my questions are:
How do I know if two oscillators are the same or different?
If they have the same x_max value and ω value, but different [itex]\phi[/itex] value, are they still the same oscillator?

Thanks all
 
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fallenshadow95 said:
If they have the same x_max value and ω value, but different [itex]\phi[/itex] value, are they still the same oscillator?

Hi fallenshadow95, http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

In general, taking the output of an oscillator and phase-shifting is not regarded as creating a second independent oscillator. But in the application where your data originates, their interpretation may differ.

I think you need to ask your lecturer to clarify this point if it will arise in what you are doing.
 
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It is mathematically impossible to distinguish how many phase shifted sine signals of the same frequency are superimposed. The sum of any number of these is still a single sine signal.
 

1. How can you tell if two oscillators have different frequencies?

One way to determine if two oscillators have different frequencies is by measuring their periods. The period is the time it takes for one complete cycle of the oscillation. If the periods are different, then the frequencies are also different.

2. Is it possible for two oscillators with the same frequency to have a phase difference?

Yes, it is possible for two oscillators with the same frequency to have a phase difference. Phase difference refers to the difference in the starting points of the two oscillators. Even if they have the same frequency, if one starts at a different point than the other, they will have a phase difference.

3. Can the amplitude of an oscillator affect its frequency?

No, the amplitude of an oscillator does not affect its frequency. The frequency is determined by the characteristics of the oscillator, such as its mass, spring constant, and damping coefficient. The amplitude only affects the maximum displacement of the oscillator.

4. What is the difference between a harmonic oscillator and an anharmonic oscillator?

A harmonic oscillator is one in which the restoring force is directly proportional to the displacement from equilibrium. This results in a simple sinusoidal motion with a constant frequency. An anharmonic oscillator, on the other hand, has a restoring force that is not directly proportional to the displacement, resulting in a more complex motion with a varying frequency.

5. How can you tell if two oscillators have the same frequency but different amplitudes?

One way to determine if two oscillators have the same frequency but different amplitudes is by graphing their displacement vs. time curves. If the curves have the same shape and frequency, but different amplitudes, then the oscillators have the same frequency but different amplitudes.

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