Explaining Aether & Difference between Higgs Field & Aether

In summary, the aether was a hypothetical medium thought to exist in order to explain light as a wave. However, experiments have shown that it does not exist and the concept is no longer considered in science. The Higgs field, on the other hand, is a field in the Standard Model of particle physics that is necessary for the theory to be correct. It is a relativistic field and not equivalent to the aether. The Higgs boson, or particle manifestation of the Higgs field, is still being studied and could potentially be confirmed by the Large Hadron Collider.
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Haibara Ai
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Can someone explain to me what Aether is? And what's the difference between the Higgs field and the aether?

thanks
 
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Haibara Ai said:
Can someone explain to me what Aether is?
When people started to learn that light acted like a wave, they reasoned that there was some medium which the light was a wave perturbation on. This was a fairly reasonable assumption at the time, as all known waves at the time occurred in some medium. They called this medium for electrodynamics the aether. As with sound in air or ocean waves on the water, the relevant speed is the speed with respect to the medium. So they thought that the speed of light (or maxwell's equations in general) were only true in one coordinate system ... the "aether frame" in which the aether is at reast. Experiment later showed that such an aether did not exist (or at the very least had no effect on experiment and therefore was not a subject for science). So the aether is now a defunct topic accept for certain gravity theories that try to add in a dynamic background field that breaks lorentz invariance... but these are not mainstream.

Haibara Ai said:
And what's the difference between the Higgs field and the aether?
As described above, the aether is not related to the Higgs at all.
Furthermore the (standard model) Higgs field is completely relativistic, so does not provide any preferred frame / lorentz breaking effects either.
 
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Haibara Ai said:
Can someone explain to me what Aether is? And what's the difference between the Higgs field and the aether?

thanks

The difference between any field (including the Higgs Field; others would be the electromagnetic field, strong field, etc.) and the aether is that fields are Lorentz invariant, meaning they can accommodate special relativity theory. The "aether" is Galilean invariant, and can't accommodate relativity theory.

The "field" view has been successful in matching real data; the "aether" view has not.

To explain specifically what the "Higgs Field" is quite a deep subject, but basically, its presence is necessary (in some form) if the Standard Model electroweak unification theory is correct.
:smile: (Hope this helps...)
 
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...I would add that an aether in the 5th dimension would still preserve 4D lorentz invariance, and have some quite interesting effects.

For example, consider a scalar field coupled to an aether field [itex]u^a[/itex]in the fifth dimension:

[tex]\mathcal{L}_{\phi}= \frac{1}{2} (\partial\phi)^2 -\frac{1}{2} m^2\phi^2-\frac{1}{2\mu^2_\phi}u^a u^b\partial_a\phi\partial_b\phi[/tex]
where
[tex]u^a=(0,0,0,0,v)[/tex]
Solving the higher dimensional Euler Lagrange equations
[tex]\partial_a \left(\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial(\partial_a\phi)}\right)-\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial \phi}=0[/tex]
you can quickly obtain:
[tex]\partial_a\partial^a\phi-m^2\phi=\mu^{-2}_\phi\partial_a(u^au^b\partial_b\phi)[/tex]
expressed in momentum space you get:
[tex]\phi \propto e^{ik_ax^a}=e^{ik_\mu x^\mu}e^{ik_5y}[/tex]
For the term involving the VEV of the aether field you can quickly obtain:
[tex]\mu^{-2}_\phi\partial_a(u^au^b\partial_b\phi)&=&\mu^{-2}_\phi\partial_5(u^5u^5\partial_5\phi)[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{v^2k_5^2}{\mu_\phi^2}\phi[/tex]
If we now impose periodic boundary conditions on the wave vector in the fifth dimension
[tex]k_5=\frac{n\pi}{R}[/tex]
you find
[tex]-k_\mu k^\mu=m^2+(1+\alpha_\phi^2)\left(\frac{n\pi}{R}\right)^2[/tex]
The interpretation of this is that the mass spacing for the KK tower is enhanced. This is actually a pretty neat way to hide extra dimensions - eg, they could still be large, but the modified momentum dispersion relations simply mean that extremely high momentum would be required to observe them.
 
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Thanks a lot
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robousy said:
...I would add that an aether in the 5th dimension would still preserve 4D lorentz invariance, and have some quite interesting effects.

For example, consider a scalar field coupled to an aether field [itex]u^a[/itex]in the fifth dimension:

[tex]\mathcal{L}_{\phi}= \frac{1}{2} (\partial\phi)^2 -\frac{1}{2} m^2\phi^2-\frac{1}{2\mu^2_\phi}u^a u^b\partial_a\phi\partial_b\phi[/tex]

why does the term [tex]-\frac{1}{2\mu^2_\phi}u^a u^b\partial_a\phi\partial_b\phi[/tex] stand for the interaction between aether and scalar field?

thanks
 
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Try Wikipedia for the Higgs Field:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_field

The Higgs boson is the particle manifestation (quanta) of the Higgs field like the photon is the particle manifestation of the electromagnetic field...If they ever get the large hadron collider running in Europe, it is hoped that will be able to confirm the existence of the HIGGS boson...
 

1. What is Aether?

Aether is a hypothetical substance that was once believed to fill all of space and act as a medium for the propagation of light. It was proposed in the 19th century to explain how light waves could travel through a vacuum.

2. How is Aether different from the Higgs Field?

Aether and the Higgs Field are two different concepts. Aether is a hypothetical substance, while the Higgs Field is a real, measurable field in quantum physics. The Higgs Field is responsible for giving particles their mass, while Aether was proposed as a medium for light propagation.

3. Was Aether ever proven to exist?

No, Aether has never been proven to exist. In the late 19th century, experiments were conducted to try and detect the presence of Aether, but they were inconclusive. With the development of modern physics, the concept of Aether was no longer needed to explain the behavior of light and other phenomena.

4. Why was the concept of Aether abandoned?

The concept of Aether was abandoned because it was no longer necessary to explain the behavior of light and other phenomena. With the development of theories such as Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum mechanics, Aether was no longer needed as a medium for light propagation.

5. Are there any modern theories that incorporate the concept of Aether?

No, there are no modern theories that incorporate the concept of Aether. The concept of Aether has been largely replaced by our current understanding of the universe and its fundamental forces. However, some alternative theories and fringe ideas still incorporate Aether as a way to explain certain phenomena.

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