Understanding the Trefoil Knot and Its Function on a Torus

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In summary: Then the equation is (x-y)^2=r^2. r is the length of the curve, and x and y are the coordinates on the rectangle. In this case, (2,2) is a trefoil knot, because the length of the curve is 3 and the slope is 1. In summary, our professor talks a bit about a function on a torus and how it relates to knots. He also explains that not all functions that relate to knots are prime, and gives an example of a trefoil knot.
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So in the process of giving us a crude definition of a trefoil knot, our professor talks a bit about a function on a torus.

If we view the torus as the identification of sides of a square, and define a function y=(p/q)x, then we may only go from the bottom left corner (0,0) to the top right corner (1,1) (I guess forming a knot) if (p,q)=1. Two questions...

1) Isn't any function y=(m/n)x the same as a function y=(p/q)x with (p,q)=1?

2) Is there a simple way to understand why the (p,q) must be 1, or is it something not so trivial?
 
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I should mention, my algebra and algebraic topology isn't great. I've studied a good bit of a semester of introductory undergraduate group theory, but not much else. The treatment of knots in my topology class is purely as an example of Van Kampen's theorem and not as a topic in and of itself, so I know very little about them.
 
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sammycaps said:
1) Isn't any function y=(m/n)x the same as a function y=(p/q)x with (p,q)=1?
yes.
2) Is there a simple way to understand why the (p,q) must be 1, or is it something not so trivial?
it's just that if p and q are relatively prime then they tell you the actual number of rotations around the torus. p/q is just the slope of a straight line on the flat torus. Any common factors cancel out.
 
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lavinia said:
yes.

it's just that if p and q are relatively prime then they tell you the actual number of rotations around the torus. p/q is just the slope of a straight line on the flat torus. Any common factors cancel out.

So if we take p and q not relatively prime rotations around the torus, what happens?
 
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sammycaps said:
So if we take p and q not relatively prime rotations around the torus, what happens?

try the case of a (2,2) curve. You can draw a picture on a rectangle with opposite edges identified.
 

1. What is a trefoil knot and how is it formed?

A trefoil knot is a type of mathematical knot that consists of a single loop twisted around itself three times. It can be formed by taking a closed loop and twisting it in a certain way before connecting the ends together. This results in a knot that cannot be undone without cutting or passing the end through itself.

2. How is the trefoil knot related to a torus?

A torus is a doughnut-shaped surface with a hole in the middle. It is often used in mathematics as a way to visualize the trefoil knot. This is because the trefoil knot can be drawn on the surface of a torus without intersecting itself, making it a useful tool for understanding the properties of both the knot and the torus.

3. What is the significance of the trefoil knot and its function on a torus?

The trefoil knot on a torus has many interesting properties and applications in mathematics and physics. It is an example of a non-trivial knot, meaning that it cannot be untangled without cutting it. The trefoil knot on a torus also has applications in fields such as chemistry and topological quantum field theory.

4. Can the trefoil knot be visualized in three-dimensional space?

Yes, the trefoil knot can be visualized in three-dimensional space as well. However, on a torus, it can be represented without any self-intersections, making it easier to understand and study its properties. In three-dimensional space, the trefoil knot would have to twist and turn in order to avoid intersecting itself, making it more complex to visualize.

5. Are there any real-life examples of the trefoil knot and its function on a torus?

Yes, there are several real-life examples of the trefoil knot and its function on a torus. One example is the shape of a DNA molecule, which can be visualized as a trefoil knot on a torus. Another example is the shape of a pretzel, which can also be modeled as a trefoil knot on a torus. The trefoil knot and its function on a torus also have applications in architecture and design.

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