Difficult integration question

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove the Riemann integrability of a function f on the interval [0,1] × [0,1] and compute its integral. The first condition of the function is that if x is irrational or x is rational and y is irrational, then f(x,y) = 0. The second condition is that if x is rational and y = p/q with gcd(p,q) = 1, then f(x,y) = 1/q. To prove integrability, the fact that for every E > 0 there exists a partition P such that U(f,P) - L(f,P) < E is used. The conversation also discusses using the density of rationals in the
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Homework Statement


Show that the function f : [0,1] × [0,1] → R given by

f(x,y) =

{ 0 if x is irrational, or x is rational and y is irrational
{ 1/q if x is rational, y = p/q with gcd(p,q) = 1

Is integrable and compute the integral.


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I know I have to use the fact that Riemann integrability is equivalent to the fact that for every E > 0 there exists a partition P such that U(f,P) - L(f,P) < E.

Due to the density of the rationals in the reals, we are always going to have L(f,P) = 0. So I just have to find a partition P such that U(f,P) < E. So I'm quite sure that I'm going to have to use the infinite sum of 1/2^n. However, I'm quite stuck on figuring out a valid partition. The more I think, the harder finding this partition seems to be :(

Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
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No one has any suggestions? :cry:
 
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The first condition of this question is similar to that of Drichilet function. Break the condition further from this.
 

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