Does an Object Ever Truly Reach Terminal Velocity?

In summary, the first formula shows the object's velocity never reaches terminal velocity, but the second formula shows that at terminal velocity the forces are balanced. This apparent contradiction is due to the difference between mathematical models and real world observations. In the real world, the object's velocity may get close enough to terminal velocity that the difference is negligible or insignificant, but it will never actually reach it.
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Ali Asadullah
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We have the following formula for the velocity of an object moving in a fluid.
v = vt -vte-kt/m.
This formula shows that an object can never achieve terminal velocity but in the derivation of this formula given in "Fundamental of Physics" by H D Young and Freedman 10 edition we use the formula mg=kvt which shows that object achieves terminal velocity?
Can anyone please explain this seemingly contradiction?
 
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Ali Asadullah said:
We have the following formula for the velocity of an object moving in a fluid.
v = vt -vte-kt/m.
This formula shows that an object can never achieve terminal velocity but in the derivation of this formula given in "Fundamental of Physics" by H D Young and Freedman 10 edition we use the formula mg=kvt which shows that object achieves terminal velocity?
Can anyone please explain this seemingly contradiction?

What do you mean by "never"? In an exponential equation like that, you only have to go out a few time constants to get arbitrarily close to the final value...
 
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But sir vt=v only when time t = infinity.
and hence v can never equal to vt.
But while deriving it we have supposed that we have achieved vt.
 
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There are a number of laws in physics that have an exponential like this one. Radioactive decay is one. Another is the rate of loss of heat from a hot body. In both of these cases, the maths says that the value never reaches zero because t would need to be infinity. In that you are perfectly correct.
However, this is the maths. In the real world, we find that we don't need to wait until infinity before the value falls to such a low level that it is so near to zero that the difference cannot be measured, or the difference is of no significance.
 
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Yes and just to add an example to what stronebridge is saying. Newton's law of heating and cooling which you may be familiar with or population modelling. These both have similar concepts behind them. If you put a steel ball in a 30F room. and The steel ball is at 0F, they will never become the same temperature except at infinity. This is because there is a point where the steel ball is 29.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 F, and since the law of heating and cooling depends on difference in temperature, it will take forever for them to be equal.
 
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Thanks a lot Sir Stonebridge and Sir dacruick.
 
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Ali Asadullah said:
We have the following formula for the velocity of an object moving in a fluid.
v = vt -vte-kt/m.
This formula shows that an object can never achieve terminal velocity but in the derivation of this formula given in "Fundamental of Physics" by H D Young and Freedman 10 edition we use the formula mg=kvt which shows that object achieves terminal velocity?
Can anyone please explain this seemingly contradiction?

The first formula is stating that if the object is released from a state of rest, and allowed to accelerate downward through a viscous fluid in a gravitational field, then its velocity at time t will be as specified. The second formula is stating that, AT terminal velocity, the downward force of gravity WOULD be equal and oppositely directed to the drag force (so that they sum to zero). But when the initial velocity is less than the terminal velocity, then the object never achieves a velocity equal to terminal velocity. Its velocity only approaches the terminal velocity asymptotically.
 

1. What is the formula for calculating terminal velocity?

The formula for calculating terminal velocity is Vt = √(2mg/ρAC), where Vt is the terminal velocity, m is the mass of the falling object, g is the acceleration due to gravity, ρ is the density of the fluid, A is the projected area of the object, and C is the drag coefficient.

2. How is terminal velocity affected by mass?

The terminal velocity of an object is directly proportional to its mass. This means that as the mass of the object increases, so does its terminal velocity.

3. Does the density of the fluid affect terminal velocity?

Yes, the density of the fluid in which the object is falling does affect its terminal velocity. Objects falling through denser fluids will have a lower terminal velocity, while objects falling through less dense fluids will have a higher terminal velocity.

4. What is the significance of the drag coefficient in the terminal velocity formula?

The drag coefficient, represented by the letter C, is a measure of how streamlined an object is. Objects with a higher drag coefficient will experience more air resistance and therefore have a lower terminal velocity, while objects with a lower drag coefficient will have a higher terminal velocity.

5. Can the terminal velocity formula be used for objects falling in any fluid?

No, the terminal velocity formula is specifically for objects falling through air. Different fluids have different densities and drag coefficients, so the formula would need to be adjusted accordingly for objects falling in other fluids.

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