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Let's get back to the topic, please.
Kholdstare, really the fault lies with you not appropriately addressing your own conflicting statements.Kholdstare said:Which was after this post.
If you had highlighted the conflict in the above post, the confusion could be avoided.
It has nothing to do with the emoticon.
lisab said:Let's get back to the topic, please.
HeLiXe said:Gad, when you said it has to do with personal choice, do you also believe that society has some influence on the choices we make?
Up to a certain point yes, but environment does play an important role. You're formed as a child and depend on the school system and parents to guide you.Gad said:Well, I hate the stereotypical reasoning, especially when it comes to individual choices in/opinion about life matters. Every single one has a set of values/ethics/believes/etc is for sure influenced by culture/religion/person/animal/idea/etc. But in the end, what that person chooses or expresses is their own ideology and should never be related to 'one' of their backgrounds.
That's one. Another thing is that everyone is responsible for their choices. Do not blame it on circumstances.
Jow said:I know that science hasn't always been kind to women in the past but that seems to have changed. So why is it that there are so few women in the scientific community. I know it isn't extremely difficult to find a woman scientist, but compared to men the numbers are rather low (according to Forbes, in the US only 13% of physics PhDs are awarded to women). I am sure that there is still discrimination against women, but it seems to me that this should be significantly lower now as it used to be. What other major factors might there be which result in the fewer women scientists. I remember hearing somewhere that women don't go into science as much because it is harder to start a family due to the lack of stability in a science career and women don't want to wait until their late 30's to start having children. What do you think?
Females discriminate to the same level as males, see the study I cited (and that matches my experience as well).Bacle2 said:The constant claims of discrimination create a climate in which one, as a male is seen as a cruel exploitator.
PNAS said:The gender of the faculty participants did not affect responses, such that female and male faculty were equally likely to exhibit bias against the female student.
Yeah, assuming they were all males?LargeGregory said:because they are human too, and they know their hormones will get in a tizzy.
Monique said:To get back to the question "why are there so few women in science": I work in a hospital and do biomedical research, an industry where females are generally well-represented. There is a program for the development and management of talents, so that postdocs are prepped for a junior principle investigator predicate. This program is very selective and application is only considered after recommendation by the group leader and with the approval of the head of a department, among other limitations.
I found out today that in the hospital there were 30 people selected, of which 2 females. Really, how is that possible?
I know for sure that far more than 6% of postdocs is female, I was planning to check whether there are any official hospital demographics known.Choppy said:Do you know what the sex ratio was in the applicant pool?
Ok, so I looked it up. I don't have the exact number, since only people within three years after receiving their PhD qualify.. but let's have a look at what the gender ratio is among PhD students:Choppy said:Do you know what the sex ratio was in the applicant pool?
_StrongArm_ said:Women are too soft and caring. They're mothers, instinctively maternal beings. I don't support women taking up roles designed for men. Men lead, woman and children FOLLOW.
Aero51 said:Why do so few men go into child care?
Enigman said:Cause we are wimps? Any man who isn't totally crazy is scared of changing diapers...
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Mr.E
I think it's a combination of two things. 1) Men generally don't like taking care of children. They'll do it, but women seem to actually derive joy from it. And 2) People tend to not trust men with their children. Women tend to not trust men period. Every bulletin I see at school for a female student looking for a roommate, they 100% of the time, from what I've seen, specify only female applicants.Why do so few men go into child care?
Monique said:should men lay around all day with their feet in the air, because lions do that as well?
Monique said:should men lay around all day with their feet in the air, because lions do that as well?
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