Proving solution of wave equation

In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of proving a given general solution for the wave equation. The given solution is p(x,t) = A1f1(x-c0t) + A2f2(x+c0t). The conversation also includes calculations and assumptions made along the way, such as the linearity of the wave equation, the relationship between spatial position and time, and the transformation to new variables. The nabla symbol is also mentioned and its use for more than one spatial coordinate is discussed. Finally, the conversation brings up questions about the constants A1 and A2 and the dimensionality of x.
  • #1
tandoorichicken
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Hello everyone.

I'm asked in a problem to prove that a given general solution is valid for the wave equation
[tex]\nabla^2 p - \frac{1}{c_0^2} \frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial t^2} = 0 [/tex].

The given solution was
[tex]p(x, t) = A_1 f_1 (x - c_0 t) + A_2 f_2 (x + c_0 t)[/tex].

I just need a check of work here. I plugged in the solution and calculated out for a 1-dimensional wave equation, but I might have made some assumptions along the way that are un-kosher.
 
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  • #2
Here is the work:

[tex]\nabla^2 p - \frac{1}{c_0^2}\frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial t^2} = \frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial x^2} - \frac{1}{c_0^2}\frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial t^2} = 0[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial x^2} = A_1 \frac{\partial^2 f_1}{\partial x^2} + A_2 \frac{\partial^2 f_2}{\partial x^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial t^2} = A_1 c_0^2\frac{\partial^2 f_1}{\partial t^2} + A_2 c_0^2\frac{\partial^2 f_2}{\partial t^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial x^2} - \frac{1}{c_0^2}\frac{\partial^2 p}{\partial t^2} = A_1 \frac{\partial^2 f_1}{\partial x^2} + A_2 \frac{\partial^2 f_2}{\partial x^2} - \frac{1}{c_0^2} (A_1 c_0^2\frac{\partial^2 f_1}{\partial t^2} + A_2 c_0^2\frac{\partial^2 f_2}{\partial t^2}) = 0[/tex]

[tex]A_1 (\frac{\partial^2 f_1}{\partial x^2} - \frac{\partial^2 f_1}{\partial t^2}) + A_2 (\frac{\partial^2 f_2}{\partial x^2} - \frac{\partial^2 f_2}{\partial t^2}) = 0[/tex]

At this point I assumed that since this was the LINEAR wave equation, this meant that spatial position varied linearly with time, so some equation could be written [itex]x = kt + b[/itex] where k and b are arbitrary constants.

[tex]\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial t^2} = \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2}\frac{d^2 x}{d t^2} = 0 [/tex]

Likewise, while it doesn't make sense physically, one could make the mathematically sound statement [itex]t = mx + d[/itex] where m and d are arbitrary constants.

[tex]\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2} = \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial t^2}\frac{d^2 t}{d x^2} = 0 [/tex]

Therefore the above equations reduce to 0.

Q.E.D?
 
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  • #3
The assumption doesn't make sense to me. Spatial position of what? How does you assumption work for a known solution like exp[i(x - c0 t)]?

I was thinking that you might be able to do this by transforming to new variables

[itex]
\phi_\pm = x \pm c_0 t
[/itex]
 
  • #4
Sorry, completely forgot the context :redface:

This is for ultrasonic imaging. The function p(x,t) is a function of position (depth) in tissue and time.
 
  • #5
I'm just not sure your problem is 1-D, or that you just made that assumption... Things I am just concerned about -- are your givens A1, A2 constants or vectors (like wih E-fields, they would be indicative of polarizations) and is x one-dimensional... or a vector (which would often be indicated by r, but not always)? These thoughts complicate the things, as now the spatial derivatives are more interesting...
 
  • #6
The nabla is for more than one spatial coordinate. Let's assume for simplicity that the "x" in the solution means that the problem is essentially one-dimensional.

Then you might redo the differentiations using the chain rule properly.

E.g.

[tex] \frac{\partial p}{\partial x}=\frac{dp}{d\left(x-c_{0}t\right)}\frac{\partial \left(x-c_{0}t\right)}{\partial x} +\frac{dp}{d\left(x+c_{0}t\right)}\frac{\partial \left(x+c_{0}t\right)}{\partial x}[/tex]

and using the expression the problem offers, you finally get

[tex] \frac{\partial p}{\partial x}=A_{1}\frac{df_{1}}{d\left(x-c_{0}t\right)}\frac{\partial \left(x-c_{0}t\right)}{\partial x}+A_{2}\frac{df_{2}}{d\left(x+c_{0}t\right)}\frac{\partial \left(x+c_{0}t\right)}{\partial x}=... [/tex]

Daniel.
 

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