Gravitational force and distance

In summary, the equation F=GmM/d^2 can be used to measure the force between a person and the Earth. As the person goes closer to the center of the Earth, the gravitational force decreases and eventually becomes zero at the center. This is because the mass of the Earth pulling on itself creates a high pressure at the center. Gauss's Law can be used to calculate the gravitational force at the center, and it shows that the force goes to zero as the radius decreases. There may be a dichotomy between Newtonian and relativistic gravity at the center of the Earth.
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If F=GmM / d^2 Let's assume we're using it to measure the force between me and the earth, as i go further away the force on my decreases, what would happen if i could go right to the centre of the earth? would i be crushed under the force or what?
 
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Well for starters that equation is invalid for distances d>r; where r is the radius i.e. beneath the surface of the earth. Beneath the surface, you'll have to apply Gauss' law. Mayb that should get you thinking.

Are you familiar with Gauss's law? Use geometry to get a feel as to what the resultant force is on a particle in a hollow sphere then apply that thinking to the earth.

edit: I forgot to say that r is the radius of the earth
 
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Im not talking about a hollow sphere, because it has to have mass to have a gravitational pull, but if i assume there was a well that went to the Earth's core, i jumped in and made it to the bottom, would i be crushed under the force when i reach the middle?

Also i don't see how Gauss's law can help me with this problem, although he states the equation i mentioned before and that gravity acts as if the mass is concentrated at the centre, I am trying to work out what would happen at the centre if i could get there.
 
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Xile said:
If F=GmM / d^2 Let's assume we're using it to measure the force between me and the earth, as i go further away the force on my decreases, what would happen if i could go right to the centre of the earth? would i be crushed under the force or what?
As ranger indicated the acceleration of gravity depends on the mass enclosed in a sphere. As one goes to the center of the earth, the enclosed mass decreases.

On the other hand, the Earth's mass pulls on itself, and the pressure at the center of Earth is on the order of 350 GPa. (1 atm is ~0.1 MPa, or ~0.0001 GPa).

If one could maintain a column of air to the center of the earth, the pressure would be less since the density of the air is less than rock.
 
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Xile said:
Im not talking about a hollow sphere, because it has to have mass to have a gravitational pull, but if i assume there was a well that went to the Earth's core, i jumped in and made it to the bottom, would i be crushed under the force when i reach the middle?

Also i don't see how Gauss's law can help me with this problem, although he states the equation i mentioned before and that gravity acts as if the mass is concentrated at the centre, I am trying to work out what would happen at the centre if i could get there.

There is a Gauss's Law equivalent for gravitational field.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/BouguerGravity.html

You have to recalculate the radial dependence for the inside solution. The 1/r^2 dependence no longer work in this region (as anyone who has done electrostatic problems can tell you).

If you assume a sphere of uniform density, you'll see that the gravitational field drops with r, not 1/r^2 for the inside solution. So the gravitational force goes to zero as r -> 0.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
There is a Gauss's Law equivalent for gravitational field.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/BouguerGravity.html

You have to recalculate the radial dependence for the inside solution. The 1/r^2 dependence no longer work in this region (as anyone who has done electrostatic problems can tell you).

If you assume a sphere of uniform density, you'll see that the gravitational field drops with r, not 1/r^2 for the inside solution. So the gravitational force goes to zero as r -> 0.

Zz.

that's pretty cute. isn't there a dichotomy between Newtonian gravity and relativistic gravity at the center of the earth?
 
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ice109 said:
that's pretty cute. isn't there a dichotomy between Newtonian gravity and relativistic gravity at the center of the earth?

The OP was asking about gravitational force and referred to the Newtonian formula.
 
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neutrino said:
The OP was asking about gravitational force and referred to the Newtonian formula.

my question was an aside.
 
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To calculate the force a person feels when below the surface of the Earth, you divide the Earth into two pieces:
- the solid sphere that is below him
- the hollow spherical shell that is above him

The inner sphere below him acts as a point mass.

The hollow shell above him cancels out its gravitational forces, leaving net zero because the forces felt anywhere inside any hollow sphere are net zero.

Using these, it is trivial to calculate the net forces felt at the centre of the Earth ( i.e. where the inner sphere is of radius zero - hint hint.)
 

1. What is gravitational force?

Gravitational force is the attractive force that exists between any two objects with mass. It is responsible for keeping planets in orbit around the sun and for causing objects to fall towards the Earth.

2. How does distance affect gravitational force?

The force of gravity between two objects decreases as the distance between them increases. This is known as the inverse square law, meaning that as the distance between two objects doubles, the force of gravity decreases by a factor of four.

3. What is the equation for calculating gravitational force?

The equation for calculating gravitational force is F = G (m1m2)/d^2, where F is the force of gravity, G is the universal gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the two objects, and d is the distance between them.

4. How does mass affect gravitational force?

The force of gravity increases as the mass of an object increases. This means that two objects with larger masses will have a stronger gravitational pull between them.

5. What is the relationship between gravitational force and distance?

The relationship between gravitational force and distance is inverse. As the distance between two objects increases, the force of gravity between them decreases. As the distance decreases, the force of gravity increases.

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