So, the question is, which equation are you really interested in?

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In summary: But what you probably meant was:dy/dx= (1-e^(xy)y) / ((e^(xy)x)+1) which means:\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{1-e^{xy}y}{e^{xy}x+1}\,.So, which of these three options is the one you're really talking about?Oh, I see you meant the last one. In that case, since:\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{1-e^{xy}y}{e^{xy}x+1}then, since:\displaystyle e^{xy}x+1=e^{xy}(1+x)\,,you can factor out
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Why can you Take out An E^xy??

Homework Statement



Im learning about implicit solutions for differential equations. Anyways I took the derivative of a relation containing x and y to get

dy/dy=1-e^xy(y)/ e^xy(x)+1


Homework Equations



Anywhoo it turns out to be a solution to the diff eq dy/dy = e^-xy - y/ e^-xy + x



The Attempt at a Solution



Apparently you can take out an e^xy from dy/dy=1-e^xy(y)/ e^xy(x)+1 in order to get to
dy/dy = e^-xy - y/ e^-xy + x

How exactly is this so? How does this work...I hope you understand my question
 
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bmed90 said:

Homework Statement



Im learning about implicit solutions for differential equations. Anyways I took the derivative of a relation containing x and y to get

dy/dy=1-e^xy(y)/ e^xy(x)+1

Homework Equations



Anywhoo it turns out to be a solution to the diff eq dy/dy = e^-xy - y/ e^-xy + x

The Attempt at a Solution



Apparently you can take out an e^xy from dy/dy=1-e^xy(y)/ e^xy(x)+1 in order to get to
dy/dy = e^-xy - y/ e^-xy + x

How exactly is this so? How does this work...I hope you understand my question
In order for your question to be understood (without a lot of guessing by the reader) you really need to include parentheses where they're needed so that your mathematical expressions are unambiguous.

What is to be included in you numerators?

What is to be included in you denominators?

etc. ...
 
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bmed90 said:
dy/dy=1-e^xy(y)/ e^xy(x)+1
dy/dy = 1. Always.

Assuming you mean dy/dx - I'll echo SammyS, who just posted while I was typing, and ask for more clarity. And it wouldn't hurt to post the original xy-relation, either.
 
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Alright So Basically I just want to know how one goes from this

dy/dy= 1-(e^xy)(y)/ (e^xy)(x)+1

to this

dy/dy = (e^-xy) - y/ (e^-xy) + x

by taking out an e^xy from the top and bottom
 
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bmed90 said:
Alright So Basically I just want to know how one goes from this

dy/dy= 1-(e^xy)(y)/ (e^xy)(x)+1

to this

dy/dy = (e^-xy) - y/ (e^-xy) + x

by taking out an e^xy from the top and bottom
Taking your parentheses literally you have:

dy/dy= 1-(e^xy)(y)/ (e^xy)(x)+1

which means:

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=1-(e^{xy})\frac{y}{e^{xy}}x+1\,.[/itex]

And the equation:

dy/dy = (e^-xy) - y/ (e^-xy) + x

which means:

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=(e^{-xy})-\frac{y}{e^{xy}}+x\,.[/itex]

On the other hand:

dy/dy= (1-e^(xy)(y)) / ((e^(xy))(x)+1)

means:

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{1-e^{xy}(y)}{e^{xy}(x)+1}\,.[/itex]
 

1. Why can you take out an E^xy?

The exponent rule for exponents states that when raising a power to another power, you can multiply the exponents. Therefore, when you have an expression like E^xy, you can "take out" the exponent xy by multiplying it to the exponent of E, which is 1. This results in E^(x*y).

2. What does it mean to "take out" an exponent?

Taking out an exponent means simplifying an expression by using the exponent rule and reducing the number of exponents in the expression. This is done by multiplying the exponents together and writing the result as a single exponent.

3. Can you take out an exponent from any expression?

No, you can only take out an exponent if the expression follows the exponent rule and has multiple exponents. If an expression has a single exponent, it cannot be simplified by taking out an exponent.

4. Are there any other rules for taking out exponents?

Yes, there are other rules for taking out exponents, such as the power rule and the quotient rule. These rules are used to simplify expressions with multiple terms or fractions.

5. How does taking out an exponent affect the value of the expression?

Taking out an exponent does not change the value of the expression. It only simplifies the expression by reducing the number of exponents, making it easier to evaluate or solve.

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