Gravity: real force or artefact of acceleration?

In summary, the question at hand is whether a reference frame at rest with respect to a non-rotating massive object can be considered an inertial frame. Some argue that it can, as long as the gravitational force is treated as a real force. Others believe that this equates an inertial frame to a non-inertial one. However, when considering the problem of a charge in a gravitational field, there is a definitive difference. Tidal gravity is a real phenomenon and not just an artifact of acceleration. This can be observed by dropping two test particles and observing them in a freefalling frame. Ultimately, it is the tidal gravity that is related to the curvature tensor.
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The main question is really: can you consider a reference frame at rest w.r.t. a non-rotating massive object to be an inertial frame? I'd say you can't, as you would experience an acceleration in that frame and, according to the equivalence principle, you hence might as well be in an accelerating frame, which would be non-inertial - and as such you would be equating an inertial frame to a non-inertial frame, which would seem nonsensical.

Others have said that you can very well treat the frame at rest w.r.t. a massive object as an inertial frame, when you just treat the gravitational force as a real force instead of an artifact of an accelerating reference frame.

This might not seem like a problem at all (but merely like two alternative interpretations), but I think there is a definitive difference once you start considering the problem of a charge in a gravitational field (which has been talked about on these forums already I believe), and whether or not it radiates - as opposed to a uniformly accelerating charge.

So, what do you people think? At rest w.r.t. a massive object, are you in an inertial reference frame? Why, or why not?
 
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I like a practical and experimentally consistent definition of inertial frames: an inertial frame is a reference frame where an ideal accelerometer (acceleration and rotation type) that is at rest in the frame registers no acceleration. Under such a definition a frame at rest wrt a non-rotating massive object is non-inertial.
 
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Tidal gravity is real and not simply an artifact of acceleration. To understand what tidal gravity is, you simply go ta freefalling frame, and observe what happens to test particles.

e.g. on if we have two test particles of the same mass and drop them from a height, and observe them in a freefalling frame, we will observe the two particles come closer together over time (since both particles are attracted to the centre of the earth). The vertical acceleration is simply an artifact of us being stopped from falling by the Earth's surface.

In fact, it is the tidal gravity that is related to the curvature tensor.
 

1. What is gravity?

Gravity is a natural phenomenon that causes objects with mass to attract each other. It is the force that keeps us grounded on Earth and governs the motion of planets around the sun.

2. Is gravity a real force or an artefact of acceleration?

Gravity is a real force that can be observed and measured. It is not an artefact of acceleration, as it exists even in the absence of acceleration.

3. How does gravity work?

Gravity works by the principle of mass attracting mass. The larger the mass of an object, the stronger its gravitational pull. This is why planets have stronger gravitational force than smaller objects like rocks.

4. Why do objects fall towards the Earth?

Objects fall towards the Earth because of the Earth's strong gravitational pull. The Earth's mass is much larger than objects on its surface, causing them to be pulled towards its center.

5. Can gravity be manipulated?

As of now, there is no known way to manipulate gravity. It is a fundamental force of nature that cannot be altered. However, scientists are constantly studying and researching to better understand gravity and its potential applications.

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