Friction & Tyres: Why Thicker Car Tyres Give Better Grip

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In summary, the law of friction states that the amount of friction between two surfaces is independent of the area of contact and is determined by the nature of the materials. However, in real world situations, this law may not always hold true. Thicker car tyres may give better grip because they are made of softer rubber, which can compensate for the increased wear and tear. Additionally, larger tyres on motorbikes can also provide better grip due to a larger contact path. The concept of tire load sensitivity also plays a role in the grip of thicker tyres, as they reduce the load per unit area.
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Friction between 2 surfaces is independant of the area of contact and depends only on the nature of the two materials right?
Then why do thicker car tyres give better grip?
 
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Because they are made of softer rubber. To make up for the greater wear you have to have more of it to give a reasonable life.
Good question - most people don't really believe the law about friction being independant of area!

On motorbike tyres there are also secondary effects, you want a larger size to make sure that the entire contact path isn't resting on the same pit of gravel.
 
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Why does softer rubber grip better?

If thicker tyres are made of softer rubber, then won't the diameter of the tyres reduce faster? So how does having more rubber make up for greater wear and tear?
 
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You can not apply the friction law to the case of tires totally. To have the formula F=u*P (without area), the surface must be very smooth and dry.
You tires and the road surfase probably are not in that ideal condition.
 
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If its not friction between tyres and the road, it ll be friction between the tyre and something between the tyre and the road.. In any case, that friction too will be independant of area..
 
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jablonsky27 said:
Friction between 2 surfaces is independant of the area of contact and depends only on the nature of the two materials right?
Not in the real world, only in an idealized situation.
Then why do thicker car tyres give better grip?
Because of tire load sensitivity, thicker tires reduce the load per unit area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_load_sensitivity
 

1. What is friction?

Friction is the force that opposes the motion of an object when it comes into contact with another object.

2. How does friction affect car tyres?

Friction between car tyres and the road surface is what allows the car to move forward and stop. It also plays a crucial role in providing grip and stability while driving.

3. Why do thicker car tyres provide better grip?

Thicker car tyres have a larger surface area in contact with the road, resulting in more friction between the tyre and the road surface. This increased friction helps the car to maintain better grip and traction, especially on wet or slippery roads.

4. Are there any downsides to using thicker car tyres?

While thicker car tyres may provide better grip, they also have a higher rolling resistance which can lead to decreased fuel efficiency. Thicker tyres also tend to be heavier and can impact the car's handling and braking abilities.

5. How do other factors, such as tread design and tire pressure, affect grip?

Tread design and tire pressure can also play a significant role in the grip of car tyres. The tread design helps to channel water away from the contact patch, improving grip on wet roads. Proper tire pressure ensures that the tyre maintains optimal contact with the road surface, providing better grip and handling.

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