What applied math courses should i take?

In summary, the person is looking to complete their B.S. degree and needs to choose two more classes from a list of options. They are considering taking Intro to Stats B and are unsure about taking Real Analysis B due to not having taken Real Analysis A in a year. They also mention their plans to take Fluid Dynamics from the mechanical engineering department and their interest in Computational Fluid Dynamics for grad school. They ask for advice on which classes to take, and mention their career goals in math modeling or mechanical engineering. They mention their dislike for theoretical physics or pure math and consider taking Numerical Analysis A during grad school. The expert suggests considering a PDE course for math modeling and stresses the importance of numerical analysis and numerical linear algebra for mechanical engineering
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creepypasta13
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i only need 3 more for the B.S. degree. I know for sure I have to take Intro to Stats B, so I need to pick 2 more classes from: Numerical Analysis A, Combinatorics, Optimization, Abstract Algebra (I dropped the honors version), Topology, Fourier Analysis, Real Analysis B

i'm scared to take real analysis B since i haven't taken real analysis A since a year ago, so i forgot a lot of the stuff. but, i am good at proofs

i can't take numerical analysis A as it has a time conflict with a required class for my physics major (I'm double major). Also, is it worth it to complete the degree asap? I can technically finish next quarter, spring (we use trimester system), but I'm not set to complete the physics major untit next winter

i also plan on taking fluid dynamics from the mechanical eng department, since I haven't taken any engineering classes yet. also, since i plan on doing Computational fluid dynamics for grad school since it has a nice balance of physics, theory and math modeling, and job applications.
 
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no math majors here?
 
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I'm merely an undergraduate, hence I can't really give you good advice. I'm just going to state subjects that I think are interesting or very applicable. I really enjoyed topology when I took it, so I would recommend it, although I'm not too sure how applicable it is. Every physics professor I've spoken to always highly recommends taking a numerical analysis class. I also believe that Fourier analysis is extremely useful, as it's widely applicable in physics and engineering, or so I've heard.
 
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creepypasta13 said:
no math majors here?


All those subjects are important and interesting, so it is hard to say without knowing more about what your goals are.

Analysis, Topology and Abstract Algebra are very important if you are looking to go further in math, or want to get a rigorous understanding of why the math you do in physics actually works. I'm also of the opinion that these classes stretch your brain and make you a better problem solver in any field, though many people will probably take issue with that opinion.

Numerical analysis and Fourier analysis are key for physics, engineering and many other applications - basically anywhere that you actually want to compute an answer and not just talk about existence and uniqueness. Fourier analysis has pure math applications as well.

I don't know very much about optimization, other than the fact that it seems like a pretty cool topic from the outside, and has many applications.

Combinatorics is probably the least immediately useful subject you listed - unless you want to do more combinatorics or some areas of computer science. I only know a little combinatorics so I may be completely wrong, but to me (so far) it seems like the field is still all about finding little tricks, where every problem is its own little puzzle to play around with, and there is less deep overarching theory.
 
  • #5
Only two more?
The physics and applied maths lecturers say it's better to take more applied maths courses than more maths courses if you want to do physics, since you will be picking up new mathematics on your own in your physics career. I suppose they think it's harder to teac yourself in Applied Maths. Of course you need some mathematics as an undergrad, so you have a base to work from later on.
I would not do topology without a thorough understanding of real analysis, and probably abstract algebra too.
Most importantly, ask one of your physics profs. Their advice is probably best.
 
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maze said:
All those subjects are important and interesting, so it is hard to say without knowing more about what your goals are.

Numerical analysis and Fourier analysis are key for physics, engineering and many other applications - basically anywhere that you actually want to compute an answer and not just talk about existence and uniqueness. Fourier analysis has pure math applications as well.

I don't know very much about optimization, other than the fact that it seems like a pretty cool topic from the outside, and has many applications.

i'm looking into math modeling or mechanical engineering for my career goals

i'm not going into physics at all, unless computational fluid dynamics counts

i'm leaning towards computational fluid dynamics the most for right now

i don't want to do theoretical physics or pure math

out of those classes, I'm mostly thinking between abstract algebra A, real analysis B, Fourier analysis, or optimization

i can always take numerical analysis A during grad school.
OR i can just take 1 of those electives, and wait until fall to take numerical analysis A
 
  • #7
You didn't list it, but if you are interested in math modeling give some consideration to a PDE course.

There are usually different levels of PDE courses, ranging from the standard physics intro-to-pde courses that focus on physical meaning for linear PDE like the heat equation laplace equation wave equation etc, all the way to extremely abstract mathematical theory involving higher order nonlinear pde, sobolev spaces and the like, which would probably require functional analysis. Start slow, to say the least - PDE is a hard subject.

Also, for mechanical engineering and math modeling, numerical analysis and numerical linear algebra are very very important. If you get it at the graduate level, that's certainly fine. In fact its probably required for many (most?) applied math and mathy-engineering graduate programs. Just make sure you get it at some point.
 
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maze said:
You didn't list it, but if you are interested in math modeling give some consideration to a PDE course.

Also, for mechanical engineering and math modeling, numerical analysis and numerical linear algebra are very very important. If you get it at the graduate level, that's certainly fine. In fact its probably required for many (most?) applied math and mathy-engineering graduate programs. Just make sure you get it at some point.

i've already taken PDEs
the theory was uninteresting(maximal principle, etc)
the applications were fun(solving heat eq, etc)
 
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creepypasta13 said:
i've already taken PDEs
the theory was uninteresting(maximal principle, etc)
the applications were fun(solving heat eq, etc)

You could take Functional Analysis to possibly learn the theory behind the PDEs techniques. It might help though if you posted course descriptions.
 
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axeae said:
You could take Functional Analysis to possibly learn the theory behind the PDEs techniques. It might help though if you posted course descriptions.

i just said i don't like the PDE theory. i like USING PDEs, hence why I've been thinking about mechancial engineering for grad school

heres the course descrptions
110A. Algebra (4)
Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisite: course 115A. Not open for credit to students with credit for course 117. Ring of integers, integral domains, fields, polynomial domains, unique factorization

-this class isn't offered during next quarter

117. Algebra for Applications (4)
Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisite: course 115A. Not open for credit to students with credit for course 110A. Integers, congruences; fields, applications of finite fields; polynomials; permutations, introduction to groups.

131B. Analysis (4)
Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisites: courses 33B, 115A, 131A. Derivatives, Riemann integral, sequences and series of functions, power series, Fourier series.

133. Introduction to Fourier Analysis (4)
Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisites: courses 33A, 33B, 131A. Fourier series, Fourier transform in one and several variables, finite Fourier transform. Applications, in particular, to solving differential equations. Fourier inversion formula, Plancherel theorem, convergence of Fourier series, convolution. P/NP or letter grading.

164. Optimization (4)
Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisite: course 115A. Not open for credit to students with credit for Electrical Engineering 136. Fundamentals of optimization. Linear programming: basic solutions, simplex method, duality theory. Unconstrained optimization, Newton's method for minimization. Nonlinear programming, optimality conditions for constrained problems. Additional topics from linear and nonlinear programming. P/NP or letter grading.

heres a class i forgot about, that may be useful for me?

171. Stochastic Processes (4)
Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisite: course 170A or Statistics 100A. Discrete Markov chains, continuous-time Markov chains, renewal theory. P/NP or letter grading.
 
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no applied math majors here huh?
 
  • #12
For my money, take Fourier Analysis if you're going into anything where you'll touch physics with a fifteen-foot pole.
 
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creepypasta13 said:
no applied math majors here huh?

Stop bumping your thread like this: someone will give you their advice in their own time.

It's hard to advise you as to which courses to take if we don't know the classes that you've already taken. Furthermore, it would help if you gave your (or your school's) definition of applied maths: the majority of the courses you list in your OP I would class as pure maths.
 
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i've already taken:
linear algebra (proofbased)
complex analysis for applications
ordinary differential equations (upperdiv - covered laplace transforms, PDEs, existence and uniquenessm etc)
Real analysis A
PDEs
Probability theory A
Systems of linear and nonlinear DEs
Mathematical modeling
 

1. What is applied math?

Applied math is the application of mathematical principles and techniques to solve real-world problems in various fields such as engineering, physics, economics, and computer science.

2. What are some examples of applied math courses?

Some examples of applied math courses include linear algebra, differential equations, numerical analysis, probability and statistics, and discrete mathematics.

3. What skills will I gain from taking applied math courses?

By taking applied math courses, you will develop critical thinking, problem-solving, and analytical skills. You will also gain a strong foundation in mathematical concepts and techniques that can be applied to various real-world scenarios.

4. Do I need a strong background in math to take applied math courses?

While a strong foundation in math can be helpful, it is not always necessary. Many applied math courses start with basic mathematical concepts and build upon them, so it is possible to learn and excel in these courses without a strong background in math.

5. How can I determine which applied math courses to take?

This will depend on your specific interests and goals. If you are pursuing a degree in a specific field, it is best to consult with an academic advisor to determine which applied math courses are most relevant to your program. Otherwise, you can research course descriptions and talk to professors to determine which courses align with your interests and career goals.

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