Volume, washer method another approach

In summary, a new approach to finding volume was presented in this conversation. It involves using the minimum and maximum values of a function f(x) in a certain interval to approximate the volume. As the interval becomes smaller, the approximation becomes more accurate. However, this method has limitations such as the dependence on the choice of x1 and x2 and the assumption of continuity of f(x). It would be beneficial to compare this method to other volume-finding methods and consider its applicability in real-world scenarios. Overall, this approach is a valuable contribution to the discussion on finding volume and the use of mathematical concepts such as the squeezing theorem is commendable.
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Here is another approach to finding the volume :

Let [tex]x_{1}[/tex] be a point in [x.x+Δx] such that :

f([tex]x_{1}[/tex]) = minimum value of f(x) in [x,x+Δx]

Let [tex]x_{2}[/tex] be a point in [x,x+Δx] such that :

f([tex]x_{2}[/tex]) = maximum value of f(x) in [x,x+Δx]

Then,

[tex]\pi.[f(x_{1})]^2.\Delta x\leq\Delta v\leq\pi.[f(x_{2})]^2.\Delta x[/tex]

......OR.........

[tex]\pi.[f(x_{1})]^2\leq\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta x}\leq\pi.[f(x_{2})]^2[/tex]................1Now let :

[tex]\Theta_{1}=\frac{x_{1}-x}{\Delta x}[/tex] ,and

[tex]\Theta_{2}=\frac{x_{2}-x}{\Delta x}[/tex]

.....and (1) becomes:[tex]\pi.[f(x+\Theta_{1}\Delta x)]^2\leq\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta x}\leq\pi.[f(x+\Theta_{2}\Delta x)]^2[/tex].

And as Δx goes to zero,[tex]x+\Theta_{1}\Delta x[/tex] goes to ,x[tex]x+\Theta_{2}\Delta x[/tex] goes to ,x, because [tex]0\leq\Theta_{1}\leq 1[/tex] and

[tex]0\leq\Theta_{2}\leq 1[/tex].You can check that by using the ε-δ definition of a limit.

And since f(x) is continuous in [x,x+Δx],[tex]f(x+\Theta_{1}\Delta x)[/tex] will go to f(x) ,and [tex]f(x+\Theta_{2}\Delta x)[/tex] will also go to ,f(x).

And by the squeezing theorem :

[tex]\frac{dv}{dx} = \pi.[f(x)]^2[/tex] and thus:
[tex]V=\pi\int^{b}_{a}[f(x)]^2dx[/tex]
 
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Thank you for sharing this approach! It seems like a clever way to use the minimum and maximum values of f(x) to approximate the volume. However, as a scientist, I would suggest considering the limitations of this method. Firstly, the accuracy of the approximation depends on the choice of x1 and x2. If they are not chosen carefully, the error in the approximation could be significant. Secondly, this method assumes that f(x) is continuous, which may not always be the case in real-world scenarios. It would be interesting to explore how this method compares to other methods for finding volume, such as using Riemann sums or numerical integration. Overall, this is a great contribution to the discussion on finding volume and I appreciate your use of mathematical concepts like the squeezing theorem. Keep up the good work!
 

1. What is the washer method for finding volume?

The washer method is a technique used to find the volume of a solid of revolution, where the cross-sections are washer-shaped. This method involves subtracting the inner volume from the outer volume to find the total volume of the solid.

2. How does the washer method differ from the disc method?

The disc method and the washer method are both used to find the volume of a solid of revolution. The main difference is that the disc method uses circular cross-sections, while the washer method uses washer-shaped cross-sections. The washer method is generally used when the shape of the solid is more complex than a simple cylinder.

3. What is the formula for using the washer method?

The formula for using the washer method is V = π∫(R(x)^2 - r(x)^2)dx, where R(x) is the outer radius of the washer and r(x) is the inner radius. This formula is derived from the formula for finding the volume of a cylinder, V = πr^2h, where r is the radius and h is the height.

4. In what situations is the washer method most useful?

The washer method is most useful when dealing with solids of revolution that have a hole in the middle, such as a donut or a washer. It is also useful when the solid has varying radii along the axis of rotation, as the washer method allows for the calculation of the volume at each cross-section.

5. Can the washer method be used for solids with non-circular cross-sections?

Yes, the washer method can be used for solids with non-circular cross-sections, as long as the shape of the cross-section can be expressed as a function of x or y. The formula for the washer method can be modified to accommodate non-circular shapes, as long as the inner and outer radii can be determined at each cross-section.

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