Why Twins Feel Different Speeds on Opposite Carousels

In summary, the conversation discusses a scenario at a funfair where two carousels with identical angular velocity appear to be moving at different speeds to two observers on the carousels. This could be due to an optical illusion based on each person's perception of the angular velocity constantly changing, especially if they are out of phase. The amount by which they are out of phase would remain constant throughout the experience.
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Frame of reference...

Ok here's a question inspired by relativity and frames of reference.

In a funfair, there are two carousels (merry-go-rounds), each 4 meters in diameter and their centers 5 meters apart. They revolve with the same angular velocity, but in opposite directions. We have two twins P and Q on these carousels. Going round the carousels they pass each other several times.

Later, when they are sitting down and enjoying their meals, P tells Q that her carousel was faster because she always seemed to overtake Q. Q said he also felt exactly the same thing - that his carousel was faster!

What's happening?! Why does each one feel that he/she is faster than the other?
 
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I don't understand, if the two carousels have the same angular velocity then no one is passing anyone. If P and Q start off next to each other, then they will always "meet" up at the same place. It's similar to pairs in ice skating where they sink up their orientation as well as rotational speed.
 
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If this was a real-life event, rather than a thought experiment, then there might have been an optical illusion based upon each person's perception of the angular velocity constantly changing. That's just a guess, though.
 
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I think your guess is right , Danger, if they are out of phase. A would see B approach the osculating point faster, and then, after leaving maybe B would appear to slow down or something
 
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even if they were out of phase, the amount by which they were out of phase would remain constant the whole time
 
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True, but that's not quite what I meant. My reference was to the fact that each person's angular velocity relative to the other person is constantly changing. First they head straight toward each other, then travel side-by-side, then head apart.
 

1. Why do twins feel different speeds on opposite carousels?

Twins may feel different speeds on opposite carousels due to the differences in centrifugal force acting on their bodies. The centrifugal force is dependent on the distance from the center of rotation, so if one twin is on a carousel with a larger radius, they will experience a greater centrifugal force and feel a faster speed compared to the other twin on a carousel with a smaller radius.

2. Is it possible for twins to feel the same speed on opposite carousels?

Yes, it is possible for twins to feel the same speed on opposite carousels if the carousels have the same radius and rotational speed. This means that the centrifugal force acting on both twins will be equal, resulting in the same perceived speed.

3. How does the direction of rotation affect the speed felt by twins on opposite carousels?

The direction of rotation of the carousel does not affect the speed felt by twins on opposite carousels. As long as the radius and rotational speed are the same, the centrifugal force acting on the twins will be equal, regardless of the direction of rotation.

4. Can other factors, such as the weight of the twins, affect the speed felt on opposite carousels?

No, the weight of the twins does not affect the speed felt on opposite carousels. The centrifugal force acting on an object is dependent on its mass and the square of its velocity, but in this scenario, the radius and rotational speed are the main factors affecting the perceived speed.

5. How does the speed felt on opposite carousels affect the twins' motion sickness?

The speed felt on opposite carousels can potentially affect the twins' motion sickness. If one twin is on a carousel with a larger radius and feels a faster speed, they may experience more motion sickness compared to the other twin on a carousel with a smaller radius and slower speed. However, other factors such as the individual's tolerance for motion sickness and the duration of the ride can also play a role.

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