Arithmetic progression used to determine geometric progression

In summary, the conversation discusses two progressions (arithmetic and geometric) that have 9 numbers each. The sum of the numbers in the arithmetic progression is 369 and the value of b7 in the geometric progression is being sought. The person uses a formula to find the common difference and the value of a9 in the arithmetic progression, and then applies the formula for the geometric progression to find q. However, there is a mistake in their calculations as they incorrectly square and divide by q. The expert suggests reviewing the laws of exponents to correctly solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


an arithmetic progression(a1-a9) has 9 numbers.
a1 equals 1
The combination(S) of all of the numbers of the arithmetic progression is 369

a geometric progression(b1-b9) also has 9 numbers.
b1 equals a1(1)
b9 equals a9(unknown)

find b7

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The Attempt at a Solution



basically I use Sn = ((2*a1 + (n-1)*d)/2)*n
and I get 369 = 9 + 36*d; d = 10
then I find a9:
a9 = a1 + 8*d
a9 = 1 + 80 = 81; and I know b9 equals a9, so b9 = 81
then with the formula for the geometric progression I do:
bn = b1*q^(n-1)
b9 = 1*q^8
81 = q^8
9 = q^7
3 = q^6; which should be b7, however in the book's answers, it's not '3', but '27'.How is that even possible if b1 is said to be '1'?
 
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How did you go from 81 = q8 to 9 = q7 to 3 = q6?

It looks like one side you were taking the square root of, and the other side you were dividing by q, which is definitely not the same operation
 
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oh yeah, sorry about that, so it seems that squaring them isn't the way to proceed anyway, can you offer a tip?
 
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Hivoyer said:
oh yeah, sorry about that, so it seems that squaring them isn't the way to proceed anyway, can you offer a tip?

You should review the laws of exponents. ##(a^m)^n = a^{mn}##, for instance.

So ##q^8 = 81##. What's ##q^4##? What's ##q^2##? And therefore what's ##q^6##?
 

1. What is an arithmetic progression?

An arithmetic progression is a sequence of numbers where the difference between consecutive terms is constant. For example, the sequence 2, 5, 8, 11, 14 is an arithmetic progression with a common difference of 3.

2. How is an arithmetic progression used to determine a geometric progression?

An arithmetic progression is used to determine a geometric progression by taking the ratio of two consecutive terms. This ratio will remain constant if the sequence is a geometric progression. For example, the sequence 3, 6, 12, 24 is an arithmetic progression with a common difference of 3. When we take the ratio of consecutive terms, we get 6/3 = 2, 12/6 = 2, 24/12 = 2, showing that the sequence is also a geometric progression with a common ratio of 2.

3. What is the formula for finding the nth term in an arithmetic progression?

The formula for finding the nth term in an arithmetic progression is an = a1 + (n-1)d, where an is the nth term, a1 is the first term, and d is the common difference. For example, in the sequence 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, the 5th term would be calculated as a5 = 2 + (5-1)3 = 14.

4. Can an arithmetic progression and a geometric progression have the same terms?

Yes, an arithmetic progression and a geometric progression can have the same terms. For example, the sequence 2, 4, 8, 16 is both an arithmetic progression with a common difference of 2 and a geometric progression with a common ratio of 2.

5. How are arithmetic and geometric progressions used in real life?

Arithmetic and geometric progressions are used in various fields such as finance, physics, and computer science. In finance, they are used to calculate compound interest and depreciation. In physics, they are used to model motion and calculate velocities. In computer science, they are used in algorithms and data structures.

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