What is it with guys my age?

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In summary: I'm 20 and one of the guys that hit on me was 80. I consider creepy over 40.In summary, the speaker is a female student in a physics program and rarely gets approached by guys her age, but often gets hit on by older men when she goes outside. She has tried dropping subtle hints to guys her age, but it hasn't worked. She wonders if the standards of older men are too low, and is tired of dealing with their advances. She also mentions that she and her housemate both experience this issue, despite living in a small town with a mostly unemployed population. The conversation also touches on the speaker's struggles with finding a romantic partner and the possibility of a rumor circulating about her.
  • #106
Astronuc said:
In my observations, it's more of a losing strategy for one of the participants.

I didn't say it's a win-win, only that may be a winning strategy for both sexes.

Astronuc said:
It seems that irrational thinking overcomes the apparatus for detecting dishonesty - based on the number of failed relationships I've seen.

Relationships fail from a plethora of reasons, not necessarily dishonesty alone.

Astronuc said:
Yes - and morality.

How comes ? I don't see ethics in commitment, for me it's just a contractual term. It may be unethical to break contract terms, but IMO commitment, or lack thereof, bear no moral or ethical load.
 
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  • #107
DanP said:
How comes ? I don't see ethics in commitment, for me it's just a contractual term. It may be unethical to break contract terms, but IMO commitment, or lack thereof, bear no moral or ethical load.
Fulfilling a commitment, is like fulfilling the terms of a contract, even when there are exogenous changes.

It comes down to making a promise and keeping it.
 
  • #108
Astronuc said:
Fulfilling a commitment, is like fulfilling the terms of a contract, even when there are exogenous changes.

It comes down to making a promise and keeping it.
I had to look up "exogenous", but yes, I agree. But, also as you suggest, I would say that a promise of commitment to a friend or lover is more than just a 'contract'. And you seem to suggest that. It's very much a matter of personal honesty -- and the wisdom that comes with learning about and thinking about this sort of stuff. The honesty has, first, to do with oneself, and then with those whom one has, to oneself, pledged commitment to. For me, it comes down to the promise that I make to myself to be honest with the people that I want to be honest with me. Just like treating people with the respect and courtesy that I want to be treated with. It is a fact that in my most valued and long term friendships we almost invariably treat each other respectfully and coureously (while, I must admit, occasionally, bickering about certain incidental situations and circumstances).

Look, I know that generally you can't trust any human being. Why? Because everybody has their breaking point. We are, basically, animals. We are greedy and selfish, and all that seven basic sins stuff. To the bone. But we're also capable of reason, based on experience. And my experience has led me to believe that, in well chosen cases, my commitment to honesty with another human being can lead to lasting friendships. And lasting friendships contribute to a certain sort of peace of mind that I've come to greatly value. I, thankfully, have several 40 year friendships. These sorts of friendships are based on a trust that I won't allow to be broken for any reason on my part, and I assume that my long time friends feel and reason pretty much the same way.

I'm sorry. I've rambled along here. What was the OP about? Old guys hitting on a younger woman?

Ok, here it is:

I almost NEVER get approached by guys my age even though I'm a female in physics (there are 2 other girls max in all my other physics classes). However, I live off campus and almost every time I make a trip outside I get hit on by these creepy older guys. I've tried talking to guys my age and dropping subtle hints that I'm interested but it never seems to work. I'm so tired of this. Are the standards of older guys too low?

Ok, so raw is unhappy that guys her age don't hit on her, but older guys do hit on her so she asks, "Are the standards of older guys too low?"

Hmmmm. What should I read into that, if anything?
 
  • #109
ThomasT said:
I had to look up "exogenous", but yes, I agree. But, also as you suggest, I would say that a promise of commitment to a friend or lover is more than just a 'contract'. And you seem to suggest that. It's very much a matter of personal honesty -- and the wisdom that comes with learning about and thinking about this sort of stuff.

And breaking a contract ain't a issue of honesty ?
 
  • #110
DanP said:
And breaking a contract ain't a issue of honesty ?
Well sure. But the word, contract, has a sort of business connotation. And in business we're always looking for loopholes, aren't we? I'm a firm believer in never giving a sucker and even chance. But personal relationships aren't just business. They're much more than that. The covenant of a personal relationship precludes looking for loopholes and demands avoiding situations and circumstances that might threaten the relationship.

The point is this, the payoff is either in the keeping of the personal relationship or it isn't. If you decide, and promise to yourself, that you will not be the one to break the covenant, and you keep that promise, then you won't be the one who might regret what you did.

And this carries with it a very deep sort of peace of mind that can't be replaced by any amount of money or power or diversion of any sort.

And I sense that you intuitively know that. And, anyway, I like your posts, mostly.
 
  • #111
ThomasT said:
Well sure. But the word, contract, has a sort of business connotation. And in business we're always looking for loopholes, aren't we? I'm a firm believer in never giving a sucker and even chance. But personal relationships aren't just business. They're much more than that. The covenant of a personal relationship precludes looking for loopholes and demands avoiding situations and circumstances that might threaten the relationship.

Isn't totally dishonest (from a moral point of view, not a legal one) to use loopholes in either cases, even if you know very well what was agreed upon ?

If you are looking for loopholes to get out of a contract, IMO, you are pretty much dishonest, and looking to save face.

ThomasT said:
The point is this, the payoff is either in the keeping of the personal relationship or it isn't. If you decide, and promise to yourself, that you will not be the one to break the covenant, and you keep that promise, then you won't be the one who might regret what you did.

Relations don't last forever. For some ppl they last a lifetime, more power to them. To be honest, I admire them. But for many of us they did not. You don't have to harm yourself by sitting stoically in a relationship only because you committed to her for a period, determined not to break away first. It's masochism to stay in any relationship which doesn't work.

About regrets, well, in this case, you might regret what you didn't do .
 
  • #112
DanP said:
Isn't totally dishonest (from a moral point of view, not a legal one) to use loopholes in either cases, even if you know very well what was agreed upon?

If you are looking for loopholes to get out of a contract, IMO, you are pretty much dishonest, and looking to save face.
Looking for and exploiting loopholes is part of doing business. Business isn't based on trust. It's based on competition. Everybody is supposed to know this going in. If they don't, well, tough. Why do you think that government regulation of business and a certain mandated minimum wage is necessary? Without it people would be working 70 hour weeks to make ends meet. Sweatshops and child labor would be the norm.

Personal relationships are quite different. They're not based on competition. They're based on trust. No trust, no relationship.

DanP said:
Relations don't last forever. For some ppl they last a lifetime, more power to them. To be honest, I admire them. But for many of us they did not. You don't have to harm yourself by sitting stoically in a relationship only because you committed to her for a period, determined not to break away first. It's masochism to stay in any relationship which doesn't work.
I agree. This is where the honesty comes in. There's always some reason why one partner or the other in a relationship wants to end it. So, they just need to be honest and end it. Then they can both can get on with their lives.
 
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ThomasT said:
Looking for and exploiting loopholes is part of doing business. Business isn't based on trust. It's based on competition. Everybody is supposed to know this going in. If they don't, well, tough. Why do you think that government regulation of business and a certain mandated minimum wage is necessary? Without it people would be working 70 hour weeks to make ends meet. Sweatshops and child labor would be the norm.

Personal relationships are quite different. They're not based on competition. They're based on trust. No trust, no relationship.

The point is, if you are the kind of man to use every loophole possible for your own good, thing which I can understand, you are likely to use every kind of loophole possible in a relationship as well.
 
  • #114
I've read a lot of posts here condemning all males under the age of 30 for wanting nothing but sex. And I just wanted to say, quite bluntly, you're all idiots. Just because a lot of guys that age are total morons doesn't mean every single one of them are, you know. And by the way, I wouldn't date a woman if the only one whose needs were considered were hers. That's called selfish in my book.

Going over my personal experience, I have one girlfriend, and zero ex-girlfriends. We've been dating for over a year, and it's clear to both of us that we love each other, but we're both fine with no sex (even though both of our parents are constantly scared that that's not quite true). Oh look, I'm a guy under 30, and I'm dating, and she's not putting out, and I'm not leaving her. God, but your stereotyping frustrates me.

Sorry, but I felt the need to rant.
 
  • #115
Char. Limit said:
I've read a lot of posts here condemning all males under the age of 30 for wanting nothing but sex. And I just wanted to say, quite bluntly, you're all idiots. Just because a lot of guys that age are total morons doesn't mean every single one of them are, you know. And by the way, I wouldn't date a woman if the only one whose needs were considered were hers. That's called selfish in my book.

Going over my personal experience, I have one girlfriend, and zero ex-girlfriends. We've been dating for over a year, and it's clear to both of us that we love each other, but we're both fine with no sex (even though both of our parents are constantly scared that that's not quite true). Oh look, I'm a guy under 30, and I'm dating, and she's not putting out, and I'm not leaving her.

Rofl, Go Char, go !

And yeah, why do you care what your parents think about sex? Or her parents? Do you lust over her ? Then get her. Life is short, don't let others control what you want.

And btw, don't listen to the bull that man over 30 or something don't want sex. This whole world revolves around power, money and sex.

Ask Bill Clinton.

Char. Limit said:
God, but your stereotyping frustrates me.

It shouldn't Char. Stereotypes do not apply at individuals, but to groups as a whole.

Char. Limit said:
Oh look, I'm a guy under 30, and I'm dating, and she's not putting out, and I'm not leaving her.

Yeah, probably you would after 30 :P Not necessarily leaving, having a female companion , a friend is great. But most likely, you would get a girlfriend, a woman who is giving you sex, and keep the other one as a friend. And none could blame you for that. And no moral code in this world can fault you.
 
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  • #116
DanP said:
And yeah, why do you care what your parents think about sex? Or her parents? Do you lust over her ? Then get her. Life is short, don't let others control what you want.

Well, I still care what my parents think because due to college, I'm still financially dependent on them... Although sometimes I have to ignore their advice and find my own path. Example: took a trip to Kalispell to see my girlfriend last week. Parents didn't approve, didn't trust me not to get her pregnant. I went anyway... no pregnancy.


DanP said:
It shouldn't Char. Stereotypes do not apply at individuals, but to groups as a whole.

Ah, but anything that applies to a set must also apply to all elements in that set.

Edit: Didn't see your last part before... it's not that she's not going to have sex. We have romantic love for each other, no doubt about it. But she isn't quite ready for sex yet, and I respect that.
 
  • #117
Char. Limit said:
Well, I still care what my parents think because due to college, I'm still financially dependent on them

Yeah, money are freedom. Make your own and forget the parents nagging and IX century ideas. You are at the college now, they should give you more credit, and treat you with respect. At least give you enough credit that you learned to use a condom.

Char. Limit said:
Ah, but anything that applies to a set must also apply to all elements in that set.

Not true. Get a course in statistics.
 
  • #118
DanP said:
Yeah, money are freedom. Make your own

With my schedule, in the town I'm at, with this economy... easier said than done.

Not true. Get a course in statistics.

I'm trying, but there's all these other courses I have to take too... maybe next year? I could slot it in next to Diff EQs?
 
  • #119
DanP said:
The point is, if you are the kind of man to use every loophole possible for your own good, thing which I can understand, you are likely to use every kind of loophole possible in a relationship as well.
Why would you think that? If someone is smart enough and strong enough to take 'undo' advantage of certain people or entities via the exploitation of formal, or other, 'loopholes', why wouldn't they be smart enough and strong enough to draw lines wrt the people or entities that they might choose to take 'undo' advantage of?

Thoughtful people know that the joy and satisfaction of a long term relationship with another human being is a source of true peace of mind. Of course, one has to really want to be with and remain faithful to that person. And one has to believe that that person feels the same way. If either of those is absent or lacking, then infidelity is imminent.
 
  • #120
ThomasT said:
Why would you think that? If someone is smart enough and strong enough to take 'undo' advantage of certain people or entities via the exploitation of formal, or other, 'loopholes', why wouldn't they be smart enough and strong enough to draw lines wrt the people or entities that they might choose to take 'undo' advantage of?

For the simple fact is not in their nature. They will only behave "morally" as long as it is in their interest. Shove that away, and they will quickly find the loopholes. Intimate relationships are not based on trust as so many ppl seem to think, they are a combination of cooperation / competition (in a healthy balance if it works) as are all social relations which exist in this world.

Out of curiosity, you vote with the conservative right ?

ThomasT said:
Thoughtful people know that the joy and satisfaction of a long term relationship with another human being is a source of true peace of mind.

We are not created equal. Some of us are highly monogamist animals, others are not. Some will find joy in a single partner for the rest of their life, others will not be satisfied nesting with a single person, and will opt for serial relationships.

It's really not about being "thoughtful" or a moral person. It's about our neurobiology, genetic / epi-genetic and social constrains imposing on our behaviors.

ThomasT said:
Of course, one has to really want to be with and remain faithful to that person. And one has to believe that that person feels the same way. If either of those is absent or lacking, then infidelity is imminent.

Yes of course. You stay with a person for how long the social exchange works. If it doesn't last forever, you have to be masochistic to stay in a unhealthy relationship just for the sake of living up to some questionable moral ideal which says "respect the commitment, don't break away first".

Commitment for me means for how long as the relationship is OK. When it's not, Id rather split up and try something new.
 
  • #121
DanP said:
Commitment for me means for how long as the relationship is OK. When it's not, Id rather split up and try something new.

It doesn't matter how in love you are or how much you care for someone, you will argue, you will disagree. If you give up, you'll never get anywhere.

Obviously there's a point where splitting is better than staying together, but giving up too early doesn't solve your problems, it just moves them onto the next person.

Jumping from person to person simply to keep the 'happy side' of things simply creates an illusion.
 
  • #122
jarednjames said:
It doesn't matter how in love you are or how much you care for someone, you will argue, you will disagree. If you give up, you'll never get anywhere.

So what ? You don't seem to get a basic truth: ppl stay in half assed relationships way too long. Past the point of no return. When not even the best marital counselors money can buy can do nothing but accustom the couple with the idea that they will divorce.
jarednjames said:
Obviously there's a point where splitting is better than staying together, but giving up too early doesn't solve your problems, it just moves them onto the next person.

Simply absurd. Do you think that your problems will be magically solved when you give up at "the right time" ?.
jarednjames said:
Jumping from person to person simply to keep the 'happy side' of things simply creates an illusion.

Ppl don't keep an "happy side" by doing this. Some relations work, others do not. Some persons will bound forever others wont. Take it as it is, without "happy sides", "happy tablets" or other nonsense.
 
  • #123
DanP said:
Simply absurd. Do you think that your problems will be magically solved when you give up at "the right time" ?.

People who truly love each other don't just give up, put some effort into it. If you really can't work through it, then you give up and move on.
Ppl don't keep an "happy side" by doing this. Some relations work, others do not. Some persons will bound forever others wont. Take it as it is, without "happy sides", "happy tablets" or other nonsense.

If you simply leave and don't deal with your problems, you are just trying to maintain the 'happy side' of relationships and hiding from any bad points.
Nobody is perfect, everybody argues. You don't just give up.
 
  • #124
jarednjames said:
People who truly love each other don't just give up, put some effort into it. If you really can't work through it, then you give up and move on.

This is a tautology.


jarednjames said:
If you simply leave and don't deal with your problems, you are just trying to maintain the 'happy side' of relationships and hiding from any bad points.

You are probably projecting the perceptions based on your own relationships, but as I explicitly told you, its not about happy sides and other senseless folk psychology. It's about real, true differences in humans and in their behavior.

jarednjames said:
Nobody is perfect, everybody argues. You don't just give up.

You mean, you argue till hell freezes over ? Personal option, man.
 
  • #125
DanP said:
This is a tautology.

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  • #126
DanP said:
For the simple fact is not in their nature. They will only behave "morally" as long as it is in their interest. Shove that away, and they will quickly find the loopholes.
Suppose they deem it "in their interest" to preserve the relationship, over and above doing anything that might be construed as a breach of trust by their partner?

DanP said:
Intimate relationships are not based on trust as so many ppl seem to think, they are a combination of cooperation / competition (in a healthy balance if it works) as are all social relations which exist in this world.
I think that, ultimately, it comes down to trust -- and of course sharing some experiences and interests.

DanP said:
Out of curiosity, you vote with the conservative right ?
You might think that. I keep my house and yard clean. I'm a good neighbor. I 'look' conservative. But I'm actually a 62 year old hippie. A musician. I don't vote either Republican or Democrat. If Nader runs again, then I'll vote for him. Otherwise, I probably won't vote. Maybe Kucinich. I don't know. How about you?

DanP said:
We are not created equal. Some of us are highly monogamist animals, others are not. Some will find joy in a single partner for the rest of their life, others will not be satisfied nesting with a single person, and will opt for serial relationships.
Well, to be honest, I seem to be one of those serial relationship people, at least as far as women are concerned. But I still think that the basis for each and every relationship that I've had, as long as it lasted, was trust.

DanP said:
It's really not about being "thoughtful" or a moral person. It's about our neurobiology, genetic / epi-genetic and social constrains imposing on our behaviors.
You might be right. Anyway this is over my head.

DanP said:
Yes of course. You stay with a person for how long the social exchange works. If it doesn't last forever, you have to be masochistic to stay in a unhealthy relationship just for the sake of living up to some questionable moral ideal which says "respect the commitment, don't break away first".
Ok, I guess we agree on this.

DanP said:
Commitment for me means for how long as the relationship is OK. When it's not, Id rather split up and try something new.
Well, "how long the relationship is ok" depends on the attitudes and behaviors of the partners, doesn't it? As I've mentioned, I have a couple of 40-year friends. This doesn't happen by accident. It's a willful thing, and I think it's based on trust and cooperations (even though there might be minor competitions and tensions involved here and there).
 
  • #127
jarednjames said:
It doesn't matter how in love you are or how much you care for someone, you will argue, you will disagree. If you give up, you'll never get anywhere.

Obviously there's a point where splitting is better than staying together, but giving up too early doesn't solve your problems, it just moves them onto the next person.

Jumping from person to person simply to keep the 'happy side' of things simply creates an illusion.
I agree with your statements here, even though I haven't always been able to live up to the wisdom that I think they express.

It just hit me. Have we gotten off topic? What is the topic, anyway?

Ah yes, a young girl who is being hit on by older men but not by men her age. I still haven't figured that out. Hopefully she will clarify.
 
  • #128
ThomasT said:
You might think that. I keep my house and yard clean. I'm a good neighbor. I 'look' conservative. But I'm actually a 62 year old hippie. A musician. I don't vote either Republican or Democrat. If Nader runs again, then I'll vote for him. Otherwise, I probably won't vote. Maybe Kucinich. I don't know. How about you?

I believe in social liberalism, but I also support a free market economy as free of regulations as possible, death penalty, preemptive wars, the right of ppl to bear weapons is for me fundamental, I resent egalitarianism in anything but social rights, area where I resent anyone trying to rob another of human of the slightest right, I find social injustice natural and this affects my ideas on taxation, I don't believe too much in core values of today's society as nuclear family and religion. I don't vote very idealistically, Id vote anything as long as it suits my economic plans for the next years.
 
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  • #129
ThomasT said:
Well, "how long the relationship is ok" depends on the attitudes and behaviors of the partners, doesn't it? As I've mentioned, I have a couple of 40-year friends. This doesn't happen by accident. It's a willful thing, and I think it's based on trust and cooperations (even though there might be minor competitions and tensions involved here and there).

I also have a couple of friends and the relation lasts for almost 20 years, but heck , it was a bumpy ride. But indeed will to preserve the relation exists.
 
  • #130
DanP said:
I believe in social liberalism, but I also support a free market economy as free of regulations as possible ...
Me too. As much as is possible while still retaining an essential equality and freedom of opportunity.

DanP said:
... death penalty ...
Yes, I wholeheartedly support the death penalty. I consider it quite humane and efficacious considering the alternative, life in prison.

DanP said:
... preemptive wars ...
No, no no. I don't support this at all. Not for any reason. I support a strong defense precluding the need for preemptive wars.

DanP said:
... the right of ppl to bear weapons is for me fundamental ...
Yes. For me too. I don't happen to have any guns right now, but I certainly don't want any laws prohibiting me from having them.

DanP said:
I resent egalitarianism in anything but social rights ...
As far as I know, egalitarianism is only meaningful in a social context. I'm first and foremost an egalitarian, and only secondarily a libertarian. Equality of justice and opportunity, and cooperation are, in my view, far more important to a healthy society, than competition and the protection of the rights of individuals to exploit others.

DanP said:
... area where I resent anyone trying to rob another of human of the slightest right ...
Then you're essentially an egalitarian.

DanP said:
I find social injustice natural and this affects my ideas on taxation ...
Or, maybe you're not essentially an egalitarian.

DanP said:
I don't believe too much in core values of today's society as nuclear family and religion.
I believe in the utility of these things even though I'm an atheist and my family is mostly gone.

DanP said:
I don't vote very idealistically, Id vote anything as long as it suits my economic plans for the next years.
I vote idealistically, or I don't vote. So, mostly I don't vote.
 
  • #131
DanP said:
I also have a couple of friends and the relation lasts for almost 20 years, but heck , it was a bumpy ride. But indeed will to preserve the relation exists.
Well, people are people. A somewhat bumpy ride is guaranteed. But hopefully you will have these friends for life. You'll be happy that you did, I'm sure.

Ok, we are definitely off topic. What is it with women my age, anyway? Well, I'm 62 and, unless I'm just kidding myself, I seem to be getting some very good vibes from what I consider to be some very hot 40 to 50 year old women. Would I hit on our 20 year old OP? Probably not. But, has she figured out what it is with guys her age yet?
 
  • #132
ThomasT said:
As far as I know, egalitarianism is only meaningful in a social context. I'm first and foremost an egalitarian, and only secondarily a libertarian. Equality of justice and opportunity, and cooperation are, in my view, far more important to a healthy society, than competition and the protection of the rights of individuals to exploit others.

Yes, in the social context. but for me this context starts and stops with equality before the laws of the realms and equality in the set of rights granted and protected by a constitution (or whatever else).

Id doesn't require anything else for me, such as equality of opportunity. We are not born equal neither genetically, neither as a social position. Social injustice is natural.


ThomasT said:
Then you're essentially an egalitarian.

Not quite, I don't have a problem with rich getting richer, and poor getting poorer. I don't see why the more capable members of our society should pay higher taxes, only because they have higher incomes. A flat percent should be employed, and even in this situation, rich would end up paying loads more than the rest of the population.
 
  • #133
DanP said:
Social injustice is natural.
So is cruelty and the exploitation of the weak. But, supposedly, we have, as civilized human beings, evolved beyond justifying those things.

DanP said:
I don't have a problem with rich getting richer, and poor getting poorer.
Well, I suppose that's a good thing, because that seems to be the general trend. Of course it isn't a problem for the rich or near rich. Or even the upper middle class for the most part. The middle class begin to feel it when their dollars don't buy what they did five years past. It's mainly a problem for the working poor and the unemployed. And it's this, latter, segment of society that seems to be growing fastest.

DanP said:
I don't see why the more capable members of our society should pay higher taxes, only because they have higher incomes.
It's because egalitarianism is one of the tenets of American society. But, not to worry, if you make enough money to get into the higher tax brackets, and can afford really good accountants and lawyers, then it's also quite possible to actually pay a lower tax percentage than people whose incomes are, say, half yours.

DanP said:
A flat percent should be employed ...
I agree with this. Flat tax. Absolutely no tax credits or deductions. Period.

DanP said:
... and even in this situation, rich would end up paying loads more than the rest of the population.
Not "even in this situation", but only in this situation would the rich actually pay the percentage at which they're purportedly being taxed.

How much did, say, General Electric pay in US federal taxes last year? How much the year before? With a flat tax of, say, 15% and no deductions, loopholes, etc., then most large corporations, and very wealthy individuals, would be paying far more than they now pay in taxes.

My personal view is that if you're making a ton of money in this wonderful country, then you should be willing to give something back, gladly, with no reservations.

I was going to write something else, but I just realized that this is about as far off topic as I've ever seen a thread get. Probably mostly my fault. Anyway, I enjoy discussing with you Dan.

Maybe you could start another thread on some of what we're talking about, and convince me to accept your point of view? Not that I disagree entirely. Just wrt a few things. But I'm no expert on anything, and always willing to listen to and be persuaded by a wiser view.
 
  • #134
Okay, so I now understand that girls were expecting ME to make the first step... hmm, I see now why I failed... and why I am DOOMED.
 
  • #135
This thread will die one day...

(It takes off topic to another level.)
 
  • #136
CRGreathouse said:
You're almost surely being too subtle. You overestimate the cunning of the male of this species.

^^ This. Never ever assume men understand what you are thinking, hinting or saying :P

For all our intelligence (some of us that is, I am not saying everyone is intelligent) we have no idea what the mind of a woman is like! :P
 
  • #137
ajclarke said:
^^ This. Never ever assume men understand what you are thinking, hinting or saying :P

For all our intelligence (some of us that is, I am not saying everyone is intelligent) we have no idea what the mind of a woman is like! :P

Exactly. I tell my girlfriend this all the time.
 
  • #138
ajclarke said:
^^ This. Never ever assume men understand what you are thinking, hinting or saying :P

For all our intelligence (some of us that is, I am not saying everyone is intelligent) we have no idea what the mind of a woman is like! :P

Or more generally, what's really going on inside someone else's mind, regardless of gender.
 
<h2>What is it with guys my age?</h2><p>As a scientist, I have found that there are five frequently asked questions about this topic. Here are the answers:</p><h2>1. Why do guys my age seem so immature?</h2><p>It is a common misconception that all guys of a certain age are immature. However, it is important to remember that everyone matures at their own pace and not all individuals are at the same level of maturity at the same age. Additionally, societal and cultural factors can also play a role in how individuals behave and perceive maturity.</p><h2>2. Why do guys my age only seem interested in physical appearance?</h2><p>While it may seem like guys your age are only interested in physical appearance, this is not always the case. At a young age, physical attraction can play a bigger role in initial attraction, but as individuals mature, they often look for deeper connections and qualities in a potential partner.</p><h2>3. Why do guys my age seem so focused on hooking up rather than relationships?</h2><p>Again, this can vary from person to person. Some guys may be more interested in casual hookups, while others may be seeking more serious relationships. It is important to communicate your own intentions and boundaries in any potential relationship.</p><h2>4. Why do guys my age seem so afraid of commitment?</h2><p>Commitment can be a scary thing for anyone, regardless of their age or gender. It is important to remember that not all guys are afraid of commitment and those who are may have their own personal reasons for it. It is important to have open and honest communication about expectations and feelings in any relationship.</p><h2>5. Why do guys my age seem so inexperienced?</h2><p>Inexperience can be a result of a variety of factors such as lack of opportunity, personal preferences, or simply being at a different stage in life. It is important to remember that everyone has their own unique experiences and it is not fair to generalize all guys your age as inexperienced.</p>

What is it with guys my age?

As a scientist, I have found that there are five frequently asked questions about this topic. Here are the answers:

1. Why do guys my age seem so immature?

It is a common misconception that all guys of a certain age are immature. However, it is important to remember that everyone matures at their own pace and not all individuals are at the same level of maturity at the same age. Additionally, societal and cultural factors can also play a role in how individuals behave and perceive maturity.

2. Why do guys my age only seem interested in physical appearance?

While it may seem like guys your age are only interested in physical appearance, this is not always the case. At a young age, physical attraction can play a bigger role in initial attraction, but as individuals mature, they often look for deeper connections and qualities in a potential partner.

3. Why do guys my age seem so focused on hooking up rather than relationships?

Again, this can vary from person to person. Some guys may be more interested in casual hookups, while others may be seeking more serious relationships. It is important to communicate your own intentions and boundaries in any potential relationship.

4. Why do guys my age seem so afraid of commitment?

Commitment can be a scary thing for anyone, regardless of their age or gender. It is important to remember that not all guys are afraid of commitment and those who are may have their own personal reasons for it. It is important to have open and honest communication about expectations and feelings in any relationship.

5. Why do guys my age seem so inexperienced?

Inexperience can be a result of a variety of factors such as lack of opportunity, personal preferences, or simply being at a different stage in life. It is important to remember that everyone has their own unique experiences and it is not fair to generalize all guys your age as inexperienced.

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