Accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere, particularly a kicked football. It is suggested that with spin and velocity, 6 degrees of freedom are needed to accurately measure the results. It is also mentioned that a second accelerometer can be used to measure rotational velocity and a 6dof sensor is an easier solution for capturing all 6 values.
  • #1
andyfive
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Hi,

Please could someone explain how they think an accelerometer would work if positioned within the center of a freely rotating sphere (e.g a kicked football)? If using triple axis accelerometer and the ball was kicked from a standstill but with no spin, I would imagine that the accelerometer would give the linear acceleration in the X,Y and Z axis. Is this correct? What would then happen if the ball was kicked with an amount of spin? Would the accelerometer readings be meaningless due to the change in orientation of the sensor due to the spin?

Also, would it be possible to determine the spin rate/axis using some form of accelerometer configuration?

Any help would be most appreciated.

Many Thanks.

Andy.
 
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  • #2
With spin and velocity, you have 6 degrees of freedom, so you would need 6 accelerometers (or some which can measure multiple things at the same time). With only 3, the measured result would somehow depend on spin and velocity at the same time, which might give confusing values.
 
  • #3
mfb said:
With spin and velocity, you have 6 degrees of freedom, so you would need 6 accelerometers (or some which can measure multiple things at the same time). With only 3, the measured result would somehow depend on spin and velocity at the same time, which might give confusing values.

Thanks for your reply mfb. If I understand correctly, a 3 axis accelerometer would measure the translational acceleration in all 3 axis even though the ball is rotating but not the rotational velocity. How would a second 3 axis accelerometer measure different values to the first one? Would this need to be positioned/oriented differently to measure the rotational velocity?

Many Thanks.
 
  • #4
Yes, you would need 2 of them at a fixed distance apart within the object.

An easier solution is a 6dof sensor; using 3 accelerometers & 3 gyros to capture all 6 values.
 
  • #5
andyfive said:
If I understand correctly, a 3 axis accelerometer would measure the translational acceleration in all 3 axis even though the ball is rotating but not the rotational velocity.
This is right, but keep in mind that the orientation of the accelerometers would change during rotation, so a constant acceleration in one direction would give variable accelerations for the individual axes.
 

1. What is an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere?

An accelerometer is a device that measures acceleration, which is the rate of change of velocity. In a freely rotating sphere, the accelerometer is placed inside the sphere and measures the acceleration of the sphere as it rotates.

2. How does an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere work?

The accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere works by using sensors to measure the forces acting on the sphere as it moves. These forces can then be used to calculate the acceleration of the sphere in different directions.

3. What are the applications of an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere?

An accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere has various applications, such as measuring the rotation of a spacecraft, determining the orientation of a vehicle, and studying the motion of a rotating object in physics experiments.

4. How accurate is an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere?

The accuracy of an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere depends on various factors, such as the quality of the sensors and the calibration of the device. Generally, it can provide accurate measurements of acceleration within a certain range.

5. What are the potential challenges of using an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere?

Some potential challenges of using an accelerometer within a freely rotating sphere include calibrating the device accurately, dealing with external forces and vibrations, and ensuring the sensors are not affected by the rotation of the sphere. Additionally, the data from the accelerometer may need to be processed and analyzed to obtain meaningful results.

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