[Identity relations] Need help at some odd identity relation problem

In summary, the conversation discusses identity relations on the set of natural numbers from 1 to 10000. R1 is defined as having the same remainder when divided by 24, R2 has the same number of 2s in decimal notation, and R3 has the same number of 4s in decimal notation. The questions revolve around proving that the intersection of R1, R2, and R3 is an identity relation, finding the maximum number of elements in an identity class, finding the identity class with the least number of elements, and determining if there can be an equivalence class with exactly 2 elements. The conversation provides some solutions and discusses the difficulty of finding the maximum number of elements in an identity class.
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Homework Statement



On the set of Natural Numbers from 1 to 10000 are given the following identity relations.

R1 ; n R1 m where m and n have the same remainder by division by 24, that is mod n 24 == mod m 24.
R2 ; n R2 m where n and m have in decimal notation the same number of 2s
R3; n R3 m where n and m have in decimal notation the same number of 4s.

The questions.

1. Show that R = R1 intersection R2 intersection R3 is an indentity relation
2. Show that no identity class has more than 653 elements
3. Find identity class with the least number of elements
4. Can there be an equivalence class with exactly 2 elements? Why.

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The Attempt at a Solution



1. Is easy. Since ab definitio R1, R2, R3 are reflexive, symmetric and transitive by the theorem of relation properties, R is as well reflexive, symmetric and transitive since this properies are preserved by the intersection operation.

2. I have no idea. Please give me some pointers
3. Same as above.

4. Easy. e.g. let R be relation on the set of integers where nRm ; n^2 == m^2, then n-th identity class would be

[n] = {n,-n} with the exception of [0] = {0}, therefore I have shown that there can be a identity class with exactly 2 elements.
 
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The number of element in identity class R1 is roughly 10000 / 24 < 653
R2 and R3 is basically the same, let's take a close look on R2 first,
For the set of number having zero 2s, it must be the number 10000 or
share the form 0xxxx, where as x could be 0-9 except 2. that's mean
there are 9x9x9x9+1 = 6562 elements in that class > 653 elements...
The proof is failed...

3. For R2, for the number having 5 2s, the identity class is an empty set...
It has least number of element (zero). If the answer must be non-empty set,
pick out the number which have four 2s. You have only one possible choice...
 

What is an identity relation?

An identity relation is a type of mathematical relation in which the elements of a set are related to themselves. In other words, every element is related to itself and no other elements. It is denoted by the symbol "=" and is often used in algebra and set theory.

What are some examples of identity relations?

Some examples of identity relations include the relation between a number and itself (such as 5=5), the relation between a set and itself (such as A=A), and the relation between a person and their name (such as John=John).

What is the difference between an identity relation and an equivalence relation?

An identity relation only relates an element to itself, while an equivalence relation relates two or more elements to each other. In other words, an equivalence relation is reflexive, symmetric, and transitive, while an identity relation is only reflexive.

How can identity relations be used in real life?

Identity relations can be used in various ways in real life, such as in computer programming, database management, and even in social interactions. For example, in a database, the unique ID number of a person can be used as an identity relation to retrieve their personal information.

What should I do if I am having trouble with an identity relation problem?

If you are struggling with an identity relation problem, it is important to first understand the concept and properties of identity relations. You can also try breaking down the problem into smaller parts and using examples to better understand the problem. If you still need help, you can consult a tutor or ask a fellow student or teacher for assistance.

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